D.I.Y. SUSPENSION UPGRADE

G`day all,
I had various bits of the suspension on the old 60 series L/C either repaired or replaced on my recent outback trip, thus it is now a mixture of components of different brands.
There is still more to be done so I am considering replacing the whole lot with an Old Man Emu system.
Being a bit of a tight R`s I would like to try fitting it myself, I have done a couple of caravans and trailers before but not a vehicle.

Now to the purpose of this thread......

How difficult is it to do ?
What are the tricky bits, if any ?
Etc. etc. etc.
ANY advice, hints or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Scrubby.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 24, 2010 at 22:18

Tuesday, Aug 24, 2010 at 22:18
Scrubby,

First thing, you will have to be as strong as a Malley Bull. The leaf spring pack is not light and when you have to move it around under the vehicle is appears twice as heavy.

I have changed the suspension on the troopie a couple of times at home in the driveway and I always allow a full day to do either the front of the back of the vehicle.

If you have a rattle gun it would be a big help, the nuts on the "U" bolts can be tough to get off.

At least two good jacks and jack stands to support the vehicle plus wheel chocks.

I start by removing the shocks and stabilizer bar(if fitted) and then jack the vehicle up, place the jack stands under the chassis and removing the wheels.

Two bottle jacks are then placed under the diff housing and one under the tail shaft. This will stop the diff from rotating once the spring are removed.

The rest you should know if you have removed springs before.

Take your time and double check that the vehicle is held up by jack stands and will not move.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 24, 2010 at 22:30

Tuesday, Aug 24, 2010 at 22:30
Thanks Wayne,
When I do this kind of job I usually spend most of the time looking for something I had about 10 minutes earlier so I might need more time than you. LOL

Thanks again,

Scrubby.
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 08:10

Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 08:10
I've done it on a troopy several times over the years and as Wayne says it is heavy work.
One trick I did learn especially on older vehicles is to only do one spring at a time as otherwise the diffs can twist and move out of alignment which makes it a bear to get everything back together.
Also don't tighten anything completely until the vehicle is back on the ground and the springs are taking the weight.
Always use Toyota genuine rubber bushes, the aftermarket ones can disappear in one trip and the poly ones wear metal components and can squeak if not lubed constantly as well as giving a harder ride. After all the genuine usually last for 100k at least so can't be all bad.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:05

Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:05
Thanks Peter,
I have had a couple of offers of assistance from some mates that I will take when the heavy stuff is happening.
The trend seems to be greasable shackles and poly bushes but I reckon grease and dust (read sand) are not a good mix.Yes others have told me that they need frequent greasing.

Thanks again,

Scrubby.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:55

Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:55
Poly bushes will drive you mad in a very short time.

I had to use them in a Nissan a few years ago and they squeaked so much I put the old rubber ones back in.


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Follow Up By: Mad Cowz (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:34

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:34
Hey scrubby,
I can be a bit of a tight R's too but it is worth spending the $20 to buy new U bolts.
I did a Rodeo one time and took ages to get 1 bolt close to undone. Using a rotary file it was undone in seconds, the blue tipped spanner would also be a good option as long as you don't burn anything else.

If you buy anything that needs grease you will need to carry a grease gun everywhere and use it often.

I try to coat any bolt threads with an anti-seize grease, we use a silver grade Locktite one, Neverseize?
Just incase you need to get stuff undone sometime.......

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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:28

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:28
Graham, Rod, MC &Trains,
Thank you all,
A bit of info from experienced people helps me make informed decisions.
I will go without the greasable set up , after all the wagon is 25 years old and done 320000 klm without them and this will only be it`s fourth set of bushes.

MadCowz, any thread below the nuts on the U bolts gets peppered and damaged, a bit of tight fitting poly hose screwed onto the thread and then cut off prevents this, replace if required when servicing, greasing.

Thanks again,

Scrubby.
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Reply By: Member - Rodney B- Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:06

Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:06
Agree it is easier if you do one spring at a time but loosen the UBolts on the other side to make it easier to get the spring lined up.
I made the mistake of fitting IronMan suspension to the 60 series and it rode like a train without suspension. (great ground clearance but a back breaker).
I have OME on my 80 and it is great (coils springs though). Have fun but allow the weekend to do it.
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Reply By: trainslux - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 14:06

Wednesday, Aug 25, 2010 at 14:06
Just a heads up regarding the ome dakkar springs.

They will not warranty the suspension if you fit it yourself.

I have had no end of trouble with arb, and their leaf springs, it was several months of frustration and damage to my vehicle by their fitters as the springs I bought from them sagged badly.
Before purchasing them, I went in and told them my vehicle requirements, and what it had, and the kit they gave me was their reccomendation.
Basically being diesel, the front springs were for a diesel, no options beyond that. The rears were the constant load 250kg, their heaviest that they had, and said would be fine for the vehicle.
Anyway.

They tried to blame me and said I had fitted them incorrectly, however, as a qualified mechanic, and one that has fitted hundreds of suspension systems to many vehicles, including training in advanced suspension tuning for racing, and off road, and the care I took with my vehicle, it was clear that I did a better job than their fitters who stripped nuts, damaged several parts of my vehicle, and fitted a new replacement spring that was so out of leaf alignment, it fouled the front hanger, and rear shackle. I would have never even accepted such a leaf, let alone fit it.
Anyway.

Car drove poorly on the road and was uncomfortable, oh and did I mention that the springs sagged within a month of fitting?.

I ended up replacing them with EFS springs, and they do warranty their springs if you fit them yourself, and the car drives fantastically, is comfortable, and has not sagged at all, car sits level and is great off road.

Trains
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