Camp Fires in Qld (generally not permitted from end Aug to January)

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 20:34
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I recently read some news articles and website for ruralfire(Qld), that you have to have a permit for any fires outside a proper cooking fireplace

(quote "In preparation for the on-coming fire season the Commissioner of the Queensland Fire and Rescue Service has declared a Fire Danger Period from midnight August 29, 2010 to midnight January 2, 2011.
Declaration of a Fire Danger Period across the State brings a change to the previous situation where a small fire of less than 2 metres in size did not require a permit. During the fire danger period anyone wanting to light a fire will need to obtain a ‘Permit to Light Fire’ from their local fire warden who will assess the circumstances around each application and develop appropriate conditions or reject the application. A declared fire danger period has no impact on other categories of existing notifications that remain unchanged. This includes fires lit out-doors in a properly constructed fire-place for the purposes of cooking and those exemptions applicable to primary producers, including cane growers.").

This means no more fires when free camping and/or fires permitted in some camp grounds (not withstanding those specifically built for cooking) - don't want a lecture on fire prevention, I am just alerting those who may inadvertently lite their camp site fire not knowing the new rules (from this Sunday) in Qld.

regards
T
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 20:44

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 20:44
Gee , trying to decide where to go for another small holiday before Xmas - S.A. has been out for a while for that reason , now maybe Frazer island and indeed QLD could be a write off as well.

Gotta love Victoria ! come for a Visit Terry , we don't mind the tourist dollars.
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 08:58

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 08:58
Fires have been banned on Fraser for a few years now, unless in a QPWS supplied fire ring, in a QPWS fenced campsite. :-((

It's for your own good, you understand, so you don't get burnt accidentally... pricks..
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 08:59

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 08:59
Hi Robin,

Fraser would be off your list anyway..... there is a perpetual fire ban in place there, except in the "pay" camp grounds like Dundaburra which has fire rings etc....


Cheers

Brian


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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:32

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:32
Hi Guys

In some areas and situations the fire ban thing is widely ignored , do you have any feel for level of compliance on Frazer.
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:12

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:12
In the past, whenever we've been on Fraser, there has always been a strong ranger presence to remind us of the fire ban. I guess if we went up to Sandy Cape, we might get away with it, but who knows? I have seen rangers up there too.

Personally, I do the right thing. What others do is up to them. I haven't seen fires on Fraser except for in the assigned area as mentioned before, so I guess most people comply.

Cheers

Brian

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Reply By: Isuzumu - Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 20:44

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 20:44
Can not find any thing about it on the derm web site (National Parks Qld) plus you would be lucky to find a bit of dry timber to burn any where at the moment hahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:26

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:26
You getting worried already Bruce LOL

I have our firewood ready to go hehehe you might have to bring the Pig


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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 13:46

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 13:46
Yes Kev just in case I brought a new Weber Baby Q, so we will be alright. So the pig is staying home, but will have the tri pod bbq and all your camp oven we should not starve
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 16:50

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 16:50
Camp Ovens you should have said LOL
The big one is for me and the small one is for Sam and the kids hehehehe


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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 17:14

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 17:14
Well I am having a night off from the stove going to the RSL for tea hahahaha
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Reply By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 21:39

Thursday, Aug 26, 2010 at 21:39
I know these rules are put in place for safety but a small fire to cook a meal with the camp oven. Norah what next. Many of us these days would think twice if the country is dry and could cause a problem, what was wrong with the way it was (fire bans due to local conditions). I stand corrected but to me the drought is over in most of QLD.
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Reply By: Isuzumu - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 06:20

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 06:20
http://www.ruralfire.qld.gov.au/Fire_bans_restrictions.html I have just checked out their site, and there is nothing about this fire bans on there, so I will be lighting up next time we are out camping.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 07:33

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 07:33
The Declared Fire Danger Period is displayed at the following location on the ruralfires website:

http://www.ruralfire.qld.gov.au/Declared_Fire_Danger_Period.html

Hope that helps,
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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 07:56

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 07:56
Yep that's good, I just looked at the name of the thread, did not take to much notice of the word "danger"
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Reply By: Mikee5 (Logan QLD) - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:45

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:45
Part of the text talks about - A declared fire danger period has no impact on other categories of existing notifications that remain unchanged. This includes fires lit out-doors in a properly constructed fire-place for the purposes of cooking

What is a properly constructed fireplace?
Unless that is defined in law, a fireplace made by properly placing rocks in a circle and properly clearing 2 metres around it would arguably meet the criteria.

What is cooking?
Burning a couple of marshmallows is cooking - I doubt if this is defined in law either.

Queensland comes up with some stupid unenforceable laws and rules, I should know, I live here.
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Reply By: OzTroopy - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 18:05

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 18:05
I like how in the few NPWS locations i attend regularly ... They know so little about the area they are "managing" - that the "common" prevailing wind is generally blowing INTO badly sited fireplaces, and blowing embers everywhere ....

.......... and they keep asking me why I have built my own fireplace at the back of theirs .... sighhhhhh ......
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 18:14

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 18:14
We were informed at our last fire brigade meeting of the new rules , read the information fully and properly and no one will have any dramas , the whole point is to keep fires UNDER CONTROL and not have a raging bonfire for a camp fire ,you want a bonfire ? GET a PERMIT.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duke (TAS) - Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 21:54

Friday, Aug 27, 2010 at 21:54
I think that was one of the problems Bob Katter is going to fix.
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