Spare / replaceble stubs? Good or not? How do they attach?

Submitted: Saturday, Aug 28, 2010 at 20:35
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HI again,

I think I saw on a trak shack once where they have a spare stub/hub/bearing assemblky on board but cannot recall ho it attaches?

Are these a good idea or just another point of potential break down where they attach?

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GN
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Reply By: Joe Grace Doomadgee - Saturday, Aug 28, 2010 at 23:11

Saturday, Aug 28, 2010 at 23:11
some have spare hub complete with bearings ect mounted as the spare wheel carrier, gives you spare hub, bearings, seals, studs n nuts and if you need it you can tie the spare up elseware....
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Reply By: gbc - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 09:06

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 09:06
I believe the stub used on the trakshak is not a spare as such - it is just welded on to serve as a place to keep a greased up hub and bearings at the ready. You could do the same for just about any spare wheel mount if you wanted. I can just see spare tyres on the front of campers spinning merrily away all over the countryside.......
As for breakdown - if you damage that you've got some pretty big problems I'd think?
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Reply By: Injected - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:25

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:25
Trak Shak have two plates bolted together with the stub mounted on one plate ( and a plate welded to the axle section off the swing arm). If you want to upgrade or replace stub due to damage all you do is unbolt the plate and put a new assembly on. Should be on their website.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 13:42

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 13:42
Here's some photos. I guess its a reasonable idea to carry a spare stub, but as you can see from the photo it wouldn't have helped here - we needed to weld the flange back onto the axle.


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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 16:54

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 16:54
Hi Phil, Are the stubs welded onto a straight axle or are they part of some kind of independantsuspension.?? Michael
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 17:02

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 17:02
Sorry Phil, I missed the post above,,, obviously its a damaged Trak Shak... Not a great idea in hindsight... Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 18:10

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 18:10
Gday Michael,
The welds holding the square axle to the flange had broken away on corrugations on Googs Track. The wheel then overtook the vehicle :-))
I haven't heard of this happening to anyone else so it might have been a one-off. But it sure made a mess.
I'm no engineer, but I'd be worried about its strength.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 19:36

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 19:36
Phil. One good thing is that nothing is missing, i guess if someone had welding gear and reasonable welding skills, they would be able to at least get going again, even if at a slower pace.. Some gussets could be added between the bolts to strengthen the flange, I think a solid axle is best, just take a set of bearing and grease.. Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - G N (VIC) - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 19:41

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 19:41
Many thanks for input
this is exactly what i wondered, if it realy just adds another potential "weak link"

Regards GN
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Reply By: Drew - Karratha - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 21:22

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 21:22
From what I can see from the photo - it is a huge under-engineered part of what should be the strongest part of the trailer - makes me wonder about the rest of it!!
I would think at the least - some gussets welded on to the plate and axle...
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Follow Up By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 23:01

Sunday, Aug 29, 2010 at 23:01
My thoughts exactly....

No way no how would I own any trailer with stub axles fitted in that manner, much less a (so called) "off-road" one....

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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Wednesday, Sep 01, 2010 at 15:21

Wednesday, Sep 01, 2010 at 15:21
hi
and i also agree that the design of that axle assembly is one of the worst i have seen and especially for an off road unit
it would even break off on a simple 6x4 trailer let alone a heavy trak- shak

the way the square axle has been butt welded to the plate is a breakdown waiting to happen to each and every one of them on the road

there appears to be only 1 run of weld on each side and they call that safe
engineering ??????
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