Good Fuel Economy or what ?

Hi john i don't like advertising products unless i investigate, a correction the filter referred to was a new air filter and the person to ring is Ken Ph 0419952324 the product is called Microglide, he has a stall at Canningvale Markets on Sundays.
The fuel and oil additive comes from NASA Space ships technology. A answer i got on my thread was i have a 4 ltr and has better economy without using fuel additive of course this persons car will be in the junk yard while mine will be running for years to come, lets not bury our heads in the sand guys but modernize and improve knowledge.
Cheers.

Well it depends

How new or old is your car is or is it petrol or diesel would you say. If you read the thread properly the point made was from buying second hand vehicle to putting fuel additive and doing a long journey has cleaned the system out including injectors with barely any stops and traveling average of 90 klm / hr

maybe you should title your thread more appropiately as your meaning was lost on me. Keep updating your records and let us know if the cost of the fuel additive warrant's the 1L/100K improvement indicated by your short experiment.

BTW, my Prado is a 2006 with 95,000 odd KMs. I'd expect around 10-11/100K on a highway run averaging 90kph.

P.S. Enjoy your Prado, ours is great.

The thread is appropriate, i suggest your understanding needs upgrade.
The cost overall is warranted it pays not only for savings but LOOKING AFTER THE ENGINE SIDE of things, really depends on how much you care for your vehicle,
I spoke to Toyota and he said 12.3/100 is fantastic and the new models like yours of course do better than mine, IMPROVED technology he said.
Yes the experiment might be short however have tried this on my other vehicles.
Maybe i get 10/100 might surprise you.

Hi robertbruce, sorry to hijack this thread here. I read in the archives you have had a lot of use from a Yamaha EF1000is gennie. Just wondering what brand/spec oil you use, how often you change it. thanks

heya JD...

my Genny gets 2.25L/12-14Hrs on ULP...
After not being able to find 1litre bottles of yamalube i tried Valveline but this coked it up fast....
I now use Penrite 30w...and penrite on everything else...
genny has now done 9000Hrs with two decokes on the exhaust chamber...
i've treated it like a trail bike dragging it through the mud and the likes, it has been a very hardy machine...
It's a little louder now-a-days being the exhaust gasket is worn, i swapped around the soundproofing to the inlet manifold and had to put a heli-coil in after a sunny-coast mowershop crossed the thread putting a sparkplug in... sleaze-bags left it for me to discover... but no matter, it has come around for them, it alway comes around...

roberttbruce, forgot to say thanks for this. Gee 9000 hours, you must be doing something right! Cheers

We have also returned similar figures for our 3.4 petrol auto on highway running . Also when out in the Strzlecki1 3months ago pushing through sand moguls we went as high as 30 l / 100 km but that was tough slow driving.

Petrol 200 Series Cruiser 12.9 L/100

Everybody could have a good story on what their car did on this trip, or that trip. I have had my 96 Patrol down to 10l per 100, and 11l while towing, but that was only the once. The next trip, same road, conditions, etc, it was a little more.
Probably the only true way of testing a cars economy, as my thought, would be to take the average over a complete year.

Thanks guys for the input i know what my vehicle does, this is a factual account and do not criticize another vehicle or product unless i have tried it myself, each to his own but this site is a place to help others with problems or improvements on vehicles and love of 4WD.
Cheers.

We have a smart Alex amongst us if you read through the complete threads it covers oil greases etc if you first investigate what this product is have you tried it say something meaningful or shut up.

Fisho64 get onto NASA website just a sample below


notes2
... soon made it possible to carry enough petrol for trans-Atlantic flights. ...
During his absence, Duckworth took his place in the fuels and oil branch at ...
others searched for:
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4404/notes2.htm

Link comes up with "not found" sorry, NASA must be having the weekend off.

My post was lighthearted but someone has had a sense of humour failure here.

Have a look back thru your replies here-perhaps you have over-reacted a little?
Did you expect everyone to line up to buy it overnight?
Quite a few seem to have pointed to better economy without additives.

If you arent trying to sell it (and Im sure you arent) theres no need to get so defensive!

smile a little.... :-)

Mmm I went back over the thread and couldnt find any reference to "oil greases etc"?
only "fuel additive filter" which turned out to be a new airfilter and something in the fuel.

Have to agree with you fisho64 - Came down a bit hard for no reason.

From what I read there is no proof that the vehicle did any better than it used to, there is no reference to what it used to do.

Personally do not use any of these products, when tested under controlled conditions they usually fall short of the claims. If they didn't you would see the technology in the next generation of vehicles.

Cheers Tony

Fisho64 my apologies for coming down hard on you as well as all the rest of you i have offended. I am defending my own personal use of a product which works for me and each one to his own. It is good having a sensible discussion provided the facts are true and correct, some of the comments LoL

No probs at all mate :-)

While you have offended me greatly, as we are both Toyota drivers Im prepared to forgive the brief "Nissan" moment earlier!!

:-)

Tonyfish proof in my original thread if you forgot to read it is below again. This equals to a 1/100 improvement.

Bought a 1998 Prado Petrol Auto 3.4 ltr. Put in fuel additive filter with 400 kg extra weight in the car and new snorkel Done a trip to Bunbury got 13.4 ltr / 100 klm and just finished a trip to Yalgoo also put fuel additive and vehicle done 12.4 ltr / 100 klm all measurements are exact, anyone done better economy let me know

Cheers.

Ok-you may have explained it a little poorly. It reads as though you put it in and drove to Bunbury and then Yalgoo.

Its not really a big deal, if it works for you then thats great. But as it appears that you havent named the "additive" anyway-then what does it matter?

As you have not bothered to read Followup 1 of 1 here it is again it is called Microglide


Hi john i don't like advertising products unless i investigate, a correction the filter referred to was a new air filter and the person to ring is Ken Ph 0419952324 the product is called Microglide, he has a stall at Canningvale Markets on Sundays.
The fuel and oil additive comes from NASA Space ships technology. A answer i got on my thread was i have a 4 ltr and has better economy without using fuel additive of course this persons car will be in the junk yard while mine will be running for years to come, lets not bury our heads in the sand guys but modernize and improve knowledge.
Cheers.

Yes true, I didnt notice that.
Well good luck with it anyway, I hope its a success and "Ken" manages to sell lots of it.

Out of curiousity what sort of car does "Ken" drive?

Don't know probably a a T Ford lol

The gas convert vehicle you sold was it mechanical problem or purely economy,
spoke to Toyota and they said the engine was not compatible with gas, he said the valves burn out, what advise about converting.
Thanks

Toyota will always tell you its not compatible they have to to cover their backsides incase anything goes wrong. I do know that the 4.5motor in the 80 series cruisers do heads running LPG even with lube kit. I had lube kit on myn which is suppose to keep the valves lubricated (no problems there). My main issue was safety, 2 things. Firstly it would stall if you had to hit the brakes hard (people who cant drive and pull out in front of you) and then when you needed the power again all you had were red lights on the dash. The main one was petrol leaking and believe me I have spoken to 3 people with the same model vehicle running LPG and all had/have the same issue..you cant fill the reserve tank up full on a hot day as the fuel would expand come back up the filler neck on the reserve tank then drop over in to the filler neck for the main tank (which is now no longer there as the tank has been removed just ahs a yellow or red cap over the end of it) and would lliterally drip petrol on the ground under the vehicle, extremely dangerous. I rang installer and was informed dont fill the reserve tank full only 3/4, I rang the RTA and they weren't concerned. Why the maker of these kits dont supply a Y section so you can join the main filler hose back into the reserve filler line I think would solve the issue as the petrol cap has a breather to stop pressure build. Even if it doesnt over flow as you have only say half a tank in the reserve the fuel vapours were extremely strong all the time. I couldnt use the passengers side rear flipper window as the fuel smell would come straight in, also only having 69L main and 60 L useable LPG my usable fuel/range was extremely reduced and forget about running LPG on sand or when towing heavy loads as you can virtually see the fuel guage drop while you have your foot planted and notiable power difference. Might be ok in some vehicles where you can keep the mian fuel tank/s and fit the lpg some where else.. Yes heaps cheaper to run but with such a small tank I was at the servo all the time and dont forget on a very warm to hot day you wont get a full tank of LPG as you have to allow for the expansion due to heat.. Sorry not for me again, its either know your going to have your hand in your pocket for cost of fuel running a 4wd or have two cars, I for city driving (little buz box) and keep the 4by for holidays or weekend fun. If its just for runing the kids to school buy a people move stlye van ........................ This is the 90 series Im talking about not the 120 series as they are injected LPG not venturi like the 3.4's are........

Thanks for the good advice it was very informative, i was thinking about a small put put for city and my prado for longer trips it's the best idea.
Cheers

Yea so they buy guns.lol