Toyota Hilux Recall 2005-2010

Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:22
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After reading this I am surprised I didn't read about it here. Faulty tailshaft brackets can cause damage and are potentially dangerous. This is a huge recall. Can only imagine the costs involved for 116,000 vehicles. 19 failures have occured under extreme conditions.

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Reply By: Fab72 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:56

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:56
Toyota quality again.

As an ex Toyota Mechanic, I am still dumbfounded how that badge on the front grill hypnotises people into thinking their cars are built any better than say a Nissan, Ford, Holden, Mazda, Mitsi or whatever.

I have seen Toyotas which are in poor condition and not through owner negligence either, but through poor design, poor quality parts and poor assembly. The same defects would have other brand owners furious, however, this percieved Toyota quality makes it almost taboo for the owner to assume they have anything but quality.

I had the benefit of working at Toyota and Holden at the same time of the Lexcen/Commodore. No complaints about the Lexcen's because they were "Toyotas", but heaps of complaints about the Commodores which unbiasesly weren't great cars at the time.

Again...same thing with the Apollo (lots of warranty complaints), but the Camry was OK....go figure.

They are built in similar factories, using the same branded robots and levels of human intervention as just about every other car in the world. Forget Japanese quality, most aren't even built in Japan. Designed by a guy sitting at a desk in Japan, but put into manufacture by a guy sitting at a desk in India, Korea, Indonesia, Australia, USA or what ever.

Over priced, over commercialized, over rated cars. Now waiting for the backlash from the out of pocket die hard Toyota lovers.
Fab.
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Follow Up By: wato35 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 13:23

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 13:23
Bugger!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:13

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:13
Hi Fab
I have a 120 Series Prado and are very happy with the vehicle, but not their after market accessories that are made for the vehicle. I have an issue with Mr Toyota at the moment and I am waiting on their reply. When I have an answer, I will let the cat out of the bag, but below is what happened and speaking with other owners with the same Toyota accessory fitted, 3 other owners that use there vehicles on dirt road have all had the same problem.

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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:26

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:26
Fab, Whilst we all aknowledge Toyota may have some problems here and there not sure we are hypnotised? I would still take a Toyota over the other brands. As a toyota owner I am happy to publish issues I have had with the vehicle, but I still believe they pale in comparison with other brands. Unfortunately Toyota in their wisdom chose to portray the Hilux as unbreakable and perception is everything, so whilst 19 owners may have bashed theirs to death until the tailshaft brackets broke, we have a massive recall. The older Hiluxes were perhaps more durable, leave that for discussion but nowadays buyers want bells and whistles and IMO the more bells you have the more things that can break.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:39

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:39
I think that part of the problem with newer vehicles is that they are more comfortable and so people drive them harder/ faster as they don't get the cr@p shaken out of them on bad roads.
Also people are alot more into touring to out of the way places now than they were 15 years ago and as such are subjecting their (newer softer) vehicles to a harsher long term environment that they may not have really been designed for and this goes for any brand.
Think back to the Leyland Bros doing a desert crossing in a week, we can now do it in the same conditions in 1-2 days.

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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 16:13

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 16:13
Stephen, to follow on from my previous comments.
Most cars really are pretty similar these days in general. Content is the biggest differentiator. Eg: Sahara vs Great Wall what ever.

However, the robotics and welders used to assemble the two bodies, probably came from the same manufacturer.

Manufacturers out sourch most of their bolt in parts and are for the best part, not design responsible for these parts either, meaning that headlights from a supplier such as Samlip will end up in a Holden Caprice and possibly even a Kia Rio.

There's much more that Joe Public is not privy to.

Admitabley, what puts a brand ahead of others is the sales and aftersales (workshop) experience. Suprisingly enough, some of the less popular brands actually out shine the big ticket brands in this area because every sale equates to a higher percentage of customer satisfaction than a brand that sell huge volumes.

Having said that, Toyota are pretty customer focussed compared to other brands that sell similar volumes.

In my professional experience (no longer on the tools) Hyundai are absolutley killing the pig and doing everything possible to ensure their customers are happy and return for repeat business. You get treated better buying an i30 than you would buying a FPV Falcon.

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Reply By: Steve - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:05

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:05
jeez fab72 - you've broken the code of silence

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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 16:16

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 16:16
LOL...Steve. It's no secret, the info is out there, it's just the blinkers people choose to wear.

I suppose being in the boosum of the industry, I see a lot of what the average guy would not.

Fab.
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Reply By: Notso - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:48

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 14:48
Ah well, Me, I've owned 8 vehicles in my life and they've all been perfect. All different brands and happy with the lot of em.

Mini 850, Holden EJ, VW Passat, Ford Fawlcoon, Volvo, Toyota Landcruiser, Nissan Patrol, Mitsubishi Triton.
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Reply By: Stevesub1 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 17:32

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 17:32
Bugger, had to happen.

In over 40 years of car ownership, I have owned heaps of Fords, a few Holdens, a Mazda, couple of Hondas, a Subaru (new), 2 x Landrovers, 1 x Nissan and of course several Toyotas.

The least relaible were the two Landrovers (1 new kept 3 years, one 5 years old, kept 5 years) which gave more problems than all the other vehicles I have ever owned put togther. The most relaible with least problems are the Toyotas (had one 7 years now with 2 problems) with Nissan, Subaru and Honda equal second with one or two problems each.

Go the Toy Cars.

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Reply By: rocco2010 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 21:28

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 21:28
Gidday

And while all today's headlines are about Toyota's giant Hilux problem, Ford is no doubt hoping to slip under the radar with a recall of 30,000 Ranger utes to repair a faulty bonnet catch and 4000 auto Rangers with a faulty gear selector cable.

The bonnet catch issue had previously been identified as a problem in Mazda BT50 utes.

Cheers

Rocco

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Reply By: fisho64 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 22:30

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 22:30
Fab you've done all of us a service.
Having read that, no-one will buy a toyota anymore (as opposed to EVERYONE aiming for one now).

The price will crash. Everyone will buy a cheap 2000 mod Patrol.

I'll buy up all the HDJ100's for a song, ready for the rush back when reality bites!

Interesting figure-a virgin early 1HD-FTE and transmission alone sells for much the same as a complete equivalent Patrol.
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Follow Up By: Nutta - Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 21:46

Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 21:46
Well the 1hd-fte& tranny must break a lot so must be expensive to get because not many available, give me a patrol any day.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 22:12

Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 22:12
I like your logic Nutta!

the patrol motors must'nt break so are cheap!
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Reply By: wato35 - Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 08:05

Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 08:05
We can go out and buy a Great Wall!!
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Reply By: olcoolone - Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 10:54

Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 10:54
What a crock.....People forget the Hilux has been the biggest selling ute in Australia since they came out and not by a small number...... so off coarse there recall numbers are going to be high

People travel further and faster these days then they did 20 years ago and I would comfortably say vehicles today are more reliable then yesterday.

It's funny how quick people forget real problems in vehicles that never get a recall as opposed to the ones published.

I think Toyota has done well compared with problems with other makes.


Good on ya media.....fantastic piece of hyped up journalism!
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 22:17

Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 22:17
If the 2wd and 4wd Hiluxes were collated together it is easily the biggest selling vehicle of any brand or type in Australia

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Reply By: Outbacktourer - Friday, Sep 10, 2010 at 14:33

Friday, Sep 10, 2010 at 14:33
As the owner of a most reliable Patrol 3.0Di, a new Land Rover and having helped out a bloke in a new Hilux with a busted ball joint on an easy track, I would just like to say I will not be commenting on this thread in any way.

OBT
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Follow Up By: Mark S (cns) - Friday, Sep 10, 2010 at 15:25

Friday, Sep 10, 2010 at 15:25
You just did! :)
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