Need help from bird people
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:16
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Member - Marc Luther B (WA)
This morning a raptor, some kind of hawk, was brought to me. It was extremely weak and not even trying to defend itself against handling. The bird has taken some
water, and has freely taken some raw meat, I have a feeling that it was simply hungry and weak.
The bird is now standing on its own, which it wasn't doing 6 hours ago. It is nestling down for the night, (I think), and I want to release it tomorrow.
I have little knowledge of these birds and do not know:-
How to determine if it is strong enough for release
What to do if it can't fly, I do not wish to stress the bird
How to hold the bird if it cannot fly
I have the bird id a parrot cage, about 2 metres x 1 metre x 1 metre, and cannot put it in my normal cage, as a raptor it would kill the other birds.
Any genuine advice would seriously be appreciated.
Cheers
Reply By: Ayita5 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:23
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 19:23
Birdcare site
Try this site, sorry, first time using the insert link button, hope it works! :)
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Reply By: LeighW - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:01
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:01
Take the bird to your local vet and tell them you found it, they should be able to
contact a local wild life group who can look after it.
Cheers
Leigh
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Reply By: Bazooka - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:02
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:02
http://www.nativeanimalrescue.org.au/NativeAnimals/emergencyCare.aspx
WILDCARE Helpline
The Western Australian Department of Environment and Conservation runs the WILDCARE Helpline. It operates 24 hours a day, seven days a week, diverting to after hours numbers at nights and weekends, to provide immediate assistance. Volunteers handle telephone inquiries and refer callers to one of 340 registered wildlife rehabilitators who take care of the animal before releasing it back into its native Habitat.
I think it is normal practice to cover the cage so that the bird is not stressed but someone from the above can confirm that. Good luck!
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Follow Up By: Ayita5 - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:14
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:14
Bazooka is totally right - the site I linked to provides fairly comprehensive info in the event that you need to take care of the bird yourself. Obviously if you are able to find a registered volunteer then that would be best as they're trained, etc, but I was assuming that since the bird was brought to you then maybe you have no such person nearby.
I wasn't familiar with the WA rescue people, I've volunteered for one in SA, and yes, absolutely cover the cage in a towel or something and keep it in a quiet room away from kids, pets, etc.
Best of luck, let us know how he fares.
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:21
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:21
We have a volunteer Wildlife Rescue here in Qld that has trained carers to take these sort of things off your hands. Most of our local vets work on injured or sick native wildlife for free. I don't know if it is as sophisticated as the set up you have in WA & it is certainly under funded.
Bazooka is right when he said to keep it covered. Keep it warm as
well.
Birds put heaps of effort into looking healthy even when they are on deaths door. What they are trying to do is not look sick or injured so they don't become the next target of predators.
They can fall off the perch dead.
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Reply By: Member - John S (INT) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:07
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:07
g'day Marc,
I am not sure about raptors, but i have aviaries and if i have a bird that is a little off colour i find that sulphur remedy helps as a bit of a pick me up. The health of birds is always a bit of a mystery as one minute they look good , the next they can be all fluffed up and ready to fall off the perch. Sometimes them being fluffed up is just a
sign they are feeling the cold sometimes there is more to it.As i said the sulphur remedy helps parrots ,not sure about raptors.Good Luck.
Cheers John.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:40
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:40
Hi John. Can you elaborate a bit more on the Sulphur remedy, haven't come across this one. We use a light glucose/
water mix for our ailing Cockatiels that seems to work
well, and as said above, keep them warm. Thanks,Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - John S (INT) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 21:04
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 21:04
g'day Toyocrusa,
the sulphur remedy,(that is the actual product name)it is a red coloured liquid that you put a couple of drops on the birds beak so it dribbles down ,so they can swallow it safely or it can be added to their
drinking water. It also helps with diarrhea in the birds when added to their
water, i find it helps to get their digestion back on track.It can be purchased in small bottles at feed stores that carry aviary supplies. Hope this helps.
Cheers John.
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Follow Up By: robertbruce - Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:18
Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:18
I have never tried this but i was told a drop of brandy is good for reviving pigeons...again, i have never tried it, but apparently was an old-time cure...
any chance of some pics?????
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Follow Up By: Member - John S (INT) - Friday, Sep 10, 2010 at 20:27
Friday, Sep 10, 2010 at 20:27
G'day Robertbruce and Toyocrusa,
sorry it took so long to get back to this thread, but when i caught up last night it was a bit late to go poking out around the aviaries, so today i brought in the bottle so i could give you some more info if you wanted it. I am going to try and put up a photo of the bottle but ,i will enclose some more info that might help as
well.
It is made by avian science, it's called "Sulfa Remedy"Image Could Not Be Found
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Reply By: Member - case h (INT) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:08
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:08
Hi Marc. I am in the real down under (kiwiland) but am a regular visitor to WA.
Eagle
Heritage in Margaret river 08 9757 2960 is a good place to start with help and advise. They can assist you with help and advise on all raptors. These type of birds cannot fend for themselves unless they are 100 procent fit. Just a little off colour and they are goneburger. Hope I have helped a little with this post. please give them a call. Regards, Case
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Reply By: Road Warrior - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:19
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:19
Might want to contact Native Arc - they're on Hope Road next to Bibra
Lake.
60 Hope Road, Bibra
Lake,
Perth, WA, 6163
OFFICE HOURS
9:00am - 5:00pm
7 Days a Week
Native ARC (office hours)
(08) 9417 7105
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:52
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 20:52
Perhaps I should have explained my situation better. As much as I would love to go to a vet, that is some 14 hours by road for me. Yes I am very remote.
I will contact the 24 hour service that someone has given me and see what I can do.
Thankyou for the advice.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 22:14
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 22:14
Hi Marc,
these guy's specialise in care for injured raptors and rehabilitate 100's of injured raptors every year. Call them. So many of these die from shock or are released and can't hunt to feed themselves once released. They are a long way from you but could give you some advice at least.
http://www.eaglesheritage.com.au/
TJ..
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 22:20
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2010 at 22:20
I have emailred you
my home phone no I run a raptor rehab centre in
perth
will talk you thru any course to get this bird back out there
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 17:24
Thursday, Sep 09, 2010 at 17:24
Thanks everyone
I am now in contact with Stuart and his wife, they have identified the bird from photos we took, and are giving us advice as required.
We will do our best to have this lovely 'Black Kite' back in the air wher it belongs, or in the hands of people who can teach it to be a bird of prey.
Cheers
Marc
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Friday, Sep 10, 2010 at 16:26
Friday, Sep 10, 2010 at 16:26
A quick thankyou to all who helped and advised regarding the raptor. EO Member Stuart is an expert in such birds, and has kindly co-ordinated the transfer of the bird to a carer in
Broome.
The Raptor has now flown with
Broome Air
Services to a better chance of a full recovery.Image Could Not Be Found
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