Supercheap dual battery system

does anyone have or had the supercheap auto battery setup, are they any good are the cables thick enough as i'm looking for something for a Suzuki Vitara as the small battery isn't enough
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Reply By: patsproule - Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 21:16

Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 21:16
Calibre brand? Their solenoid is cheap crap. I have personally seen two of these solenoids melt-down due to their terminals being a bit light on & thus heating up enough to melt the plastic housing. Caused a lovely intermittent short on the brother in law's D40.

Pat
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Follow Up By: gbc - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 14:04

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 14:04
There's no terminals on them - they are posts with nuts and anti vibration washers. Different brand maybe?
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Reply By: The roadrunner - Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 21:36

Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 21:36
What would i be best to go for
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Follow Up By: Muddie - Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 21:58

Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 21:58
Supercheap says it all, have a look at Redarc.

http://redarc.com.au/products-and-services/sbi-series-dual-battery-isolator
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Reply By: Wilko - Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 21:47

Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 21:47
Hi Roadrunner,

I got my dual battery system from an auto elec. He constructed it out of parts that he selected.

It cost me $130 for the parts and $190 to fit.

I'm wrapped as it does everything I want it to and he gave me a personal "he'll fix it" guarantee if something goes wrong. Being a country town they cant afford the bad press

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 18:32

Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 18:32
I bought a Redarc off Derek on here and used some of my old 2 Gauge stereo wire and fitted it myself and it all cost about $175..

Wouldnt dream of paying $190 to anyone to fit one of those.



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Follow Up By: Wilko - Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 19:40

Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 19:40
Hi Graham,

$190 for 2 hours work for 2 people is cheap. All wires are protected from sticks and rocks and any wires that go thru bodywork have grommets to protect them. They used quality gear and did a 1st rate job.

My battery is located under the tray. Not sure what 2 gauge stereo wire is but if its not the correct thickness wire, you'll have voltage drop.

I believe 6mm is the minimum

Agreed with Derek's gear being good stuff.

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: whyallacookie - Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 20:50

Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 20:50
AGree get the redarc, These are now available through ARB as well so should you have an issue you have support Australia wide.

As said above 2 gauge is way too thin. Funny those that complain about what others charge are also the ones who do it as cheaply as possible. Ofyten the same ones who whinge how much extra someone else somewhere down the track charges to sort out the mess.

Do it right, do it once.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 21:25

Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 21:25
Back to school boys

Just so you know the smaller the number the heavier the gauge in DC Power cable

2 gauge is total diam 12mm and has a current rating of 160 amp

Costs $18 a metre for the type I had of oxygen free stuff prev used in a high quality stereo

4 gauge is 10mm total diam, current ratiing 110amp

8 gauge is 6.5mm dia and 56amp curent rating

So where did I use too light a wire and do anything on the cheap.

The wires have professionally crimped ends and are fitted very neatly and cable tied to stop any vibration They have done 55,000km in the last 13 months without any trouble whatever

I did it once and has proved to be done right

You are talking automotive weights and 2mm would be speaker wire 6mm is usually whats provided in a Waeco fridge extension wire.

But are vastly different to what I used.

There endeth the lesson LOL.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 21:53

Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 21:53
To give you an idea here is a 5AG Fuse holder with some 2 gauge cable in one end
Heavy enough do you reckon


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Follow Up By: Wilko - Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 23:01

Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 23:01
Hi graham,

Its good to see you used the correct wiring and i assume you have the knowledge to install it correctly.

Thats good i dont have the knowledge and think getting someone who does to do it for me is a little price to pay for the piece of mind when im down the worst track imaginable that something wont stuff up due to bad workmanship.

I believe Ive got the knowledge to patch something up if it does break and i think i can patch it up.

$190 bucks works for me.

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 08:45

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 08:45
Here is the Redarc fitted and a pic of the actual "too light " cable

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 15:04

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 15:04
What is "2 Gauge cable" ??

In AWG the diameter goes up as the gauge reduces, for metric gauges it is the opposite.

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 16:25

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 16:25
This is where it came from and the pic above is the 2 g oxygen free cable as I said, was about $18 a metre

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I guess they know what they are talking about an as you say the thicker the wire the lower the gauge exactly what I said

If you talk in MM its the other way as 3mm wire is smaller than 6mm wire


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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 17:17

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 17:17
Is similar size to 2B&S (32mm²)

Link: 2G Car Power Cable

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 17:33

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 17:33
Exactly as i Described in follow up no 4 is it not.


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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 18:13

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 18:13
Graham,
yes it is, just I'm not used to it being referred as "2 Gauge cable" that is why I have asked the question, but do often get the reference to '2g' which maybe I should have taken as being the same thing, but it just did not happen as it was a bit expensive compared to the RRP of $14.50 per Mtr.

Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: whyallacookie - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 18:16

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 18:16
My bad I read 2mm... exactly what I was thinking speaker wire!
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:25

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:25
Hmm amazing that people see what they want not what is written Not to worry.

Yes Mainey it was expensive as was the 1 farad capacitator that was in the middle of it and the very expensive stereo and amp on the end of it.

It was better quality than sold by Jaycar as well.
However I sold the car and had the wiring left so used it
.Have also got one of those fuses on my fridge circuit using 8g cable and to the batteries using 3 g cable.
On them I have 60 amp resettable fuses at each end at $26 each.

Not cheap to do it once do it right.

Have about 18 m of that sort of cable through the car.

Cheers am getting the solar installed at home next month $1660 for 1.5kw



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Reply By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 23:41

Saturday, Sep 11, 2010 at 23:41
I bought my dual battery system from Sidewinder who is one of the business members here on the forum.

http://www.sidewinder.com.au/page21.html

Best unit I have had. DBi-120 Automatic switch over etc.

He also sells the Redarc unit. Both I think are great.

Great service and back up.

No affiliation etc - just a happy customer.









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Reply By: The roadrunner - Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 09:28

Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 09:28
where i work we have an engel battery system, also did think of getting a power ark box and battery and settting it up at the back, the question with these can you charge off car and can you jump start with these
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Reply By: SDG - Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 19:41

Sunday, Sep 12, 2010 at 19:41
I've been using one in the Patrol now for a little over a year. So far no problems, but I am remembering that being a cheap product, it will not last forever.
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:20

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:20
You'l find that the Supercheap "calibre' is a nockoff version of an earlier Redarc and is only rated at 100amp whereas the Redarc is rated to 150amp ,, have had 2x the Supercheap , both lasted a couple of months past the warranty [12mths] now use a Motson marine unit for the last 5yrs no problem.
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Reply By: gbc - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 14:03

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 14:03
Yes, they're rated at 140 amps and I've had one for a couple of years (colorado). They are the same as the BEP vsr that I have in my boat and I've had no trouble from that either.
I would recommend the isolator, yes and the cable is up to the job because the length of the cable isn't too long.

Anyone else actually own one?

P.S. I've personally had two redarcs fail in the same vehicle (80 series) it now runs a 4wd systems electronic isolator which hums along just fine too.

try googling 'redarc failure' and see what you come up with.
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 16:43

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 16:43
gbc - All I come up with is a lot of people saying Redarc are great - not many complaints at all

So what is your issue...maybe it was wired wrong :-)
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Follow Up By: gbc - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 07:07

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 07:07
Yeah maybe - not. The 4wd systems isolator is on the same wiring - they were just changed out.
There's a fair few of us around the comp scene who've had some probs - I'm guessing the isolators that are fully sealed (epoxy filled) like the supercheap etc are suiting those of us who submerge etc on a more regular basis than those of us who don't?

The redarcs really are old school (briggs pot?) - then again that's probably why they have such a good following around here?


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