Follow up to thread no 81006

kimba .
have you pulled the tailshaft out and physically checked the unis, they make a queaking noise when dry , even though you greased them ,the grease may not be getting in . when you lifted it you change the driveline angle ??? unis .
cheers mechpete

Fairly convinced its not them Peter but not out of the question yet. I had the same suspension fitted to my old prado with double the klms on it and never had any issues. I think they have hit/moved/shoved some thing and its causing it to squeak, see reply lower down the page from me today. Thanks for your tips and ideas Regards steve

Yeah David, I even replaced the front pad with new ones, checked the rear ones and down a bit but not enough for the indicators to hit, We checked all the body mounts today, heaps of thread on them but sort of thought to myself they would have nothing to do with the lift. It must be something they have knocked,touched or some thing, there was not one squeak,groan nothing prior to lift, The only thing that changes that Im aware of with a lift is the angle of the drive shafts but were only talking 42ml which is really stuff all.............

Hi again Kimba,

I just had a thought, a mate of mine had a Prado dont know what year, but it was a diesel. he had problems with the engine mounts.
One of them broke and it twisted the motor and gearbox while it was under load.

Mr Toyota new about the problem and they fixed it under warranty.

I cannot contact him as he is up north somewhere at the moment but will try for you.

I just thought of it, it may be enough with the change of lift to put more presure on engine mount

Good luck

David Will

Will get my mate to check tomorrow if I have time (have christening on right in the middle of the day) he was under there today with a block of timber pushing on the transfer case, gearbox etc and said everything seemed fine that way, hes like a dog with a bone when it come to things like this, he gets satisfaction by finding things but even this has him stumped, He is a mechanic and worked for toyota for 20 years and was the best at fault finding but this has him baffled big time. I will run it by him again tomorrow anyway. Thanks for the replys. The vehicle has done 101,000k. didnt think a lift would cause me so much grief.................Regards Steve M

Looks like your thinking as much as me LOL, but if it was engine mount then it wouldnt have any thing to do with it, would it ???? because it does it as well with motor NOT running, Regards Steve Im going to bed now, probably wont bloody sleep thinking of all possibilities

Hi again,

If the engine mount is worn, while you are rolling with the motor off the tail shaft will still be spinning and the motor and gearbox might be on a slight angle enough to make a noise.
Then when you start motor and put in drive this would put pressure on the whole drive line making more pressure on the mount.
If mount is worn even by 1mm it would have an effect down the line and by putting the lift in you may have put more angle on all parts. This making more pressure on all parts. hope this makes sense?

Hope this all helps

David

Hi David checked engine mounts yesterday all fine no problems. I have replied lower down the page today. Thanks for your tips and help. regards Steve

Hi Alan, no, today I had it on the smoothest road possible and it was doing it continuously, motor off, rolling could hear it, started the motor wacked in drive and gave it gentle throttle and it seems to be more pronounced, stops under full throttle and quitens down when I take my foot of it but then is still there also with motor off so its nothing to do with the motor itself, at first I was thinking idler pulley bearing, aircon pully bearing but does it with motor off, I can hear it over the radio with my window down...Im thinking motor flexing, exhaust ?? Checked all that pulled apart the flange under drivers side near my seat, has two bolts going through it with springs on them, put some grease between the joints, on the springs the bolts put it back together but problem was it stopped making the noise prior then didnt make it till I was 3k from home after doing 70 odd k then did it for a minute then stopped again.

Hi Myprado, did all that again last night. see my reply below from today. Thanks for your replys and tips to look for much appreciated. Regards steve

Hi Alastair, mate did a reply today if you want to check that out, checked all the brakes lines handbrake cable even applied the handbrake while it was making the noise also dabbed foot brake off and on no difference in noise. Thanks for your replys and tips. Regards Steev

Don't want to hijack the thread, but by your photo it seems you have a pretty decent lift on your Rodeo. What sort of suspension upgrade did you get? I'm thinking of lifting the RA Rodeo just a whisker and am looking for ideas.

Cheers.

Snake Racing

Mudripper - Above link to Snake Racing. I put the 3" lift on mine, when I brought it 3 years ago they sold it to fit My 2007 RA Rodeo.

I did have issues with front alignment with the kit. I just notice on their site that they no longer offer this kit for the RA. MMMMMMM I say, may explain the difficulty I had.

They do offer other alternatives for the RA, but it seems no longer the 3" lift.

Also I put a Lokka diff lock kit in the front, worth its weight in gold.

Also fitted a Load assist kit which is great (Follow link)

Best of luck & cheers Tony

Kimba - Mine turned out to be the side steps, loose bolt that connects the footplate the the barwork. I noticed below someone suggest you look at this.

This one little bolt makes a heck of a lot of noise that seems to come from everywhere. Not easy to find either because it was not something a feel with your fingers will find.

Thanks for that Tony. I have also been thinking of putting in a Lokka, since I do a lot of firewood in difficult areas of the bush. Did you get yours from 4WD Systems in SA? I got a quote for around the $600 mark for the front diff. Of course, I'd be putting it in myself. How does it behave when doing the rough stuff? I have fitted manual hubs in (AISIN) to make it even more versatile if a Lokka is installed.

Thanks again.

Happy 4x4ing,

Cheers.

Mudripper - That is the place you get them from.

If you put them in yourself you may have some issues, I had my mechanic put them in and he had to do some machining to get the required tolerances, be aware of this.

You will notice a change in the steering but it is no issue, it always tries to return to center. Easy to get used to.

I fitted free wheeling hubs and recommend you go that way. If I do not 4x4 for a while I lock the front hubs in to give the diff, bearings & CVs a turn over once in a while. Cheers Tony

Then you can Tackle climbs like this with ease - Idle up without giving your rig heaps

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Thanks for the advice Tony, re the Lokka.

If you don't mind me asking, how much did your mechanic charge for fitting?

Cheers.

$425.00 - It was the first one that he had fitted and he did the FW Hubs at the same time.

Depending on your mechanic it may be more but not much less I would say.

With the Lokka Kit, Hubs Kit and Mechanic the Lokka worked out to be around the $1300 mark.

Worth its weight in gold though :-)

Thanks Tony.

Hi There waymum did all that, I replied down the page today. Seems to be from the rearend and seems more pornounced on the passengers side. Regards Steve

Gday again
When the lift was done, the angle of the tail shaft changed and the uni joints are now at a different angle. To be checked , you will have to remove the shaft and check the joints. You might find that one joint is ceased.
Murray

hi kimba 10
raising the suspension will put an entirely different angle on the center tailshaft bearing and course stress
i think the noise is comming from there
spray a real good dose of crc
all around the center bearing area and casing and see if the squeak stops
i had this probem on a navara when i raised the suspension with a 3inch lift
it was the t/s ceter bearing and it drove me nuts too until i found it did the crc trick and didnt hear it again
hope it works for you
cheers

Na mate checked them yesterday as well whacked some grease on them, checked bonnett catch, opened the bonnet while rolling along still doing it. It must have some thing to do with the lift as it wasnt there prior to them touching it. But what I have no idea,,,,,, Regards Steve

Also had a pair of shockys that squeaked on seal and main shaft

Na mate alll the bushes are rubber would never use poly dont like them, thought about the shocks but when Im pushing the vehicle up and down you would think it would squeak but it doesnt, I need 4 heads hanging out the doors to try and find which end its coming from bloody thing..Regards Steve

Cheers Bill will refer this message to my mate, hes a mechanic so he will know what your referring to. Cheers Steve

Hi, yeah mate been over everything sprayed everything, even yesterday drove 35k to inlaws to drop little one off, no noise no nothing, was there for about 2 hours jumped in took off 3k up the road it started again, so here is my wife and I at 10.30 at night in the back streets of Prospect NSW doing laps with me hanging out rear luggage door head hanging down trying to determine where it was coming from, then hanging off drivers side step right hand on wheel left hanging on motor off trying to work out front or back, seemed more pronounced at the back. jumped over to passengers side wife driving (only doing about 30k) then I was hanging out passengers side standing on side step etc and definately seemed louder on passengers side and seemed to be from the rear, now this is the side they had problems fitting the rear shock (90 series prado's are a pain for fitting this shock) and they did have to drill a hole through the rear luggage area floor to get a spanner over the top of the shock to do it up then they put quit a large grommet and sealed with sickaflex, guess what Im pulling off tonight ?? Maybe just maybe the rubber bush on the top of the shock is not fitted corectly (god help them if thats the issue) or they have lost a socket or some thing stupid but I doubt its that as its more like 2 bits of metal rubbing together like they have been pushed together The only thing I havnt done is remove the 2 guards for both fuel tanks but cant see how they would have been affected but you just never know what they have moved/hit/slipped with some thing. Last night I sprayed the top of the coils and bottoms and drove it to see and no change in noise sprayed rear shock mounts (except passnegrs side one rear as described above mongrel) so after tonight if none of these things fix it then I am totally out of ideas, put a match to the friggin thing, but has some thing to do with what they have done. My mate works at Pedders so going to ring him today to see if tomorrow I can take it down there and put it on there testing suspension machine and see if that does anything (I doubt it seems it needs to be rolling) if not might see if anyone around my area has a dyno machine maybe that will make it show the noise ??????????????????????????????? Regards Steve PS Thanks for all the replys

LOL at least your reply gave me a bit of a laugh, if I catch the little sucker he aint gunna be happy hell be cat food for my cat,fed to the cat still alive so I can hear the last squeak he's ever gunna make !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then get my sanity back