Text based comms device for remote areas? Is there such a device

Submitted: Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:09
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Hi there,

Is there such a thing as a text based two-way device available for remote comms?

Something like a normal mobile using SMS would be analogous to what I'm after however would have to be satellite based not next G. I realise a sat phone can do this, would prefer something smaller so I can slip it into my pocket when on foot.

Thanks for any replies

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Reply By: Joe Grace Doomadgee - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:32

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:32
look up "spot" on the web .....
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Follow Up By: equinox - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:35

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:35
Thanks, I've got one of them. It can only send one or two predetermined texts and not receive any texts.




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Follow Up By: Joe Grace Doomadgee - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:45

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:45
i thought that may be the case, HF is probally the next to Sat phone but it is a "size" issue, a "sat" phone is large because of the anttenea needs, there are some small sat phones now but no way as good as the bigger Iridium's .....
Dont know of anything else out there but others may..
Good luck, i will be interested to see if others come up with something, every day something new comes out ...
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Reply By: Notso - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:42

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:42
Just wait until Julia gets her broadband in place and you'll be able to plug into any nearby Gum Tree.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:58

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:58
Looks like that lone gum tree in the Simpson is going to get a beating.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:51

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 19:51
I looked into a similiar situation, albeit for a slightly different purpose, and came across the GeoPro Messenger, which used the iridium network IIRC. Their website is here ==> http://www.geoprosolutions.com/geopro-messenger/

Prices weren't too bad relatively speaking from what i recalled, though dealing with an overseas company at the time was the limiting factor in my case. YMMV.

Hope that helps,
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Follow Up By: equinox - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 20:45

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 20:45
That looks like it could be what I want. It has all the features of Spot and much more!! I'll have to look into it a bit more and find out what plans are on offer.

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:03

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:03
I'd be interested in what you can discover further with this device, especially if there is an Australia agent who knows what they are talking about :). One residential plans mentioned US$35 per month and around US12c per SMS.

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Reply By: olcoolone - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 20:25

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 20:25
If you after something small have a look at the Thuraya satellite phone.

Iridium doesn't support SMS, it was only designed for emailing but if you have an Iridium phone with Telstra you can use SMS....only if it's through Telstra.
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Follow Up By: Mick O - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:27

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:27
Not too sure about that Richard. Scott and Gaby (Canadian members) had an iridium phone that was non Telstra and you could email/txt them for free through the Iridium website. They could then return a text message to your email address. Close to SMS-ing I suppose.

Now with my globalstar, I could write a note, gaffer tape it to the phone and then staple the phone to a carrier pigeon. Still had a better than average chance of reaching it's destination than an attempt to make a standard phone call!

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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:57

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:57
G'day Mick the Iridium SMS service is via email only and you can not sms to another phone.....even another iridium.

When you go through Telstra, Telstra allows you to SMS to another phone.

The way we found out about it was John and Suzette whilst away with you could not send SMS's to our phones as they had been able to before.....John changed from Telstra to TR...we contacted TR on behalf of John and got told about the email only.

It's good for us as we can send emails for free to and Iridium phone.

You think you've got it bad with globalstar....at least you have the carrier pigeon option, on the Optus Mobilesat system we have we can't send anything except voice, data or fax.....no messaging at all.
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Follow Up By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:35

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:35
Hi guys,

We have an Iridium phone that uses Pivotel (aka Globalstar) as provider. It has an Australian mobile number and wec ans end sms to any mobile.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:44

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:44
Pivotel is an Iridium supplier.

Globalstar is totally different, uses its own useless satellite and has nothing to do with Iridium.

I could send and receive SMS messages from my 9505A but ONLY FROM TELSTRA phones
My son on Vodafone and my friend on OPTUS could NOT text me.
I think I could text them but is two years since I tried.




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Follow Up By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:06

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:06
Graham,

For clarification. I didn't comment that Globalstar has anything to do with Iridium.

Pivotel now provide the Iridium satellite service in addition to the Globalstar dual-mode satellite and cellular services. It is an Australian company that took over the responsibility for Globalstar services in Australia from Vodafone.

Uisng the Pivotel Iridium service you can sms or call to or receive calls from any Australian mobile.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:25

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:25
I know that but AKA means another name for.

EG Pivotel (aka Globalstar)

Pivotel are as you say a providor of both servises but are NOT Globalstar under another name.

I bet they dont sell may Globalstar phones ROFL

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Follow Up By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:57

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 13:57
Graham,

As I recall, Pivotel was formed when the Globalstar Australia operation split from being under the Vodafone operation. It is an Australian company but is the Globalstar agent for Australia and NZ. So "aka" is correct. They have been very smart though to also provide an Iridium service whic is far superior to Globalstar. This may change if Globalstar do manage to egt their new satellites up.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 14:05

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 14:05
Graham,

As I recall, Pivotel was formed when the Globalstar Australia operation split from being under the Vodafone operation. It is an Australian company but is the Globalstar agent for Australia and NZ. So "aka" is correct. They have been very smart though to also provide an Iridium service which is far superior to Globalstar. This may change if Globalstar do manage to get their new satellites up.

Peter
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 20:43

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 20:43
Has anyone looked into the Indigo Telecom setup?
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:38

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 21:38
Yes I was talking to them this morning further to the post I put up awhile ago.

They use the Thuraya satellite which is in a high orbit above Singapore. 36,00km he said???
I asked about the height because of the low angle of the TV sat which is a bit hard to lock onto in the south and south west.

The charges for Sat only are $20 a month plus calls which I think are under $2 a minute.
You can disconnect it BUT IT COSTS $30 to reconnect it each time you do it.

He said that specifically as i mentioned the I telecom???? which you can turn on and off sort of on a daily basis.

One of their phones uses the GSM network which is fine if its where you are.

I was in Geraldton last year and swiched my Iphone onto GSM to save the battery and missed several calls due to only being NEXT G in that area apparently.

So their you have it straight from the Companies mouth so to speak.

Hope that helps

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 22:30

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 22:30
Hi Alan
I am making a few enquiries into this, on the pre paid basis, with not monthly bills and the top up valid for 12 months.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/THURAYA-SO-2510-Satellite-Phone-NEW-BOXED-PREPAID-SIM-/140414874167?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item20b160f237#ht_4167wt_911

Would fit into your top pocket no problems at all.

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Follow Up By: Joe Grace Doomadgee - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 22:37

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 22:37
"road testing" Thuraya in and around Nyirripi and further around the Tanimi the "Thuraya" performed poorly against the Iridium, signal was the downfall .....
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 22:45

Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 22:45
Thanks for that Joe Grace Doomadgee. At under $700 and on a pre paid basis it sounded like a good back up system, considering it would have cost me $360 to hire a sat phone for 3 weeks.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:47

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:47
You should have bought mine. I bought it 3 years ago and sold it for the same price last week.

Get one on Ebay.

Total costs for the time I had it was 1 call $3.77.



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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:56

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:56
I suspect there are possibilities there Stephen, to lower the cost of sms remotely.

I realize the signal issues , but I suspect some form of better/temporay antenna process may be part of the solution as sms doesn't require you to speak directly into the phone and it gets through better than voice in part because of the short data burst.

HF is coming along to - I note we are edging towards full two way SMS.
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