High quality or cheap

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Recently I rang Myers enquiring about a genuine woollen blanket (single) because the synthetics are hopeless in freezing conditions (in my view).

I nearly fell out off the chair when the woman quoted $250 for an Australian made product, rather than the chemically saturated Chinese products on offer for a fraction of the price.

After grinding the teeth, I spent $250 knowing that the blanket would serve me well over many years......and there’s nothing like wool, apart from Down.

Quality vs. price seems to be equally divided on this site with many expounding the latter as easily replaceable. That philosophy has some merits until put the test. Then things can go seriously wrong particularly in a storm!

Other items such as generators and tents are widely discussed for their cheapness,s but I wonder what the true long term value people get out of a so called bargain. I’ve payed a premium price for most of my gear, and much of it is still doing me well after 25 years.

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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:19

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:19
Yep I agree with you on quality.

I have a motto "buy cheap buy twice"

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:44

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:44
Hi Bluefly

Wow thats expensive all right so I do hope it lasts you.

We only take wool blankets , because of their benefits in a fire situation , but ours were $19.95 I think.

Always try to make purchase descisions on the value for money principle here.

No good buying cheap if product doesn't work - and no good paying double for the same thing either.

I guess I have been in meetings , where price of items is determined by studies of what the market could bear with no relation to cost of production and you get cynical after a while.








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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:55

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:55
Hi Bluefly
There is a very true saying and in the end it is usually very true:

"You only ever get what you pay for"

The fraction of the price Chinese blanket will probably be only a fraction of the quality of the Australian blanket.

Having said that, there are many good quality products that are made in China, but the big difference is that they are not cheap and the quality is very good and usually only just cheaper or no price difference at all.

Treated correctly, your Aussie made blanket will last as long as you.

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Reply By: trainslux - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 08:49

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 08:49
We just got our woolen winter weight 500gsm quilts from harris scarfes on special for 60 bucks or so.
Aust made, aust wool, lovely and warm.

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Reply By: Member - Ups and Downs - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:03

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:03
Is it worth paying the extra for the Aussie woolen blanket?

We just had a clean out and tossed out the remains of a genuine woolen blanket. Bought it in around 1971, coincidentally, from Myer.

So is near on 40 years life good value? I'd say so.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:20

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:20
We still use our Aussie wool blankets that we got as a wedding gift in July 1970. (see I remember)

Like I have said many times on this site, and I am not the only one, "You get what you pay for".Winches are a good example. As with the Chinese blanket they will work at the start but put under the test of time and Mother Nature, I hope they still work when you need them out on the Canning in 30 years time.

Yes its sometimes hard and frustrating having to wait until you can afford quality. Damned hard on one income also. But looking back I believe its worth it. Even Dads old tools, which some would have been bought back between the wars, are in good nick.

My vote is for "high quality" especially for important and long lasting items.

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Reply By: ben_gv3 - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:36

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:36
You bought from Myer... of course you'll be paying through the nose.

It's one thing to say "you get what you pay for", but that doesn't translate into "I am willing to be ripped off". It's all about value for money.

This is the Internet-age. Let Google be your friend and search for Australian manufacturers and go direct.

With the big departments stores you're paying for a lot of other costs as well - rent, marketing etc.

When searching for oil-skin jackets I found quite a few Aus manufacturers who have been around for decades and were cheaper then RM Williams & Drizabone. They use Aus made cotton and employed Aus labour. Can't get any more Australian then that. I had a look at Rays and found their oil-skins to be made in India.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 13:35

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 13:35
No internet when we received the blankets. And Myer and the like in those days did not "rip the customers off". Its only in recent years that we have seen the old "fair go" attitude disappear and the "get what the market can support" rip offs appearing.

Even on the internet its difficult because you cannot actually see the real item. Just a photo and their words. You cannot touch it and "feel" the quality.

But thats the way things are. Kind of like a lottery, hey!!!

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Follow Up By: bluefly - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 21:50

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 21:50
ben_gv3

I'm a bloke, not a woman and hate shopping. The simple fact is I couldn’t find a real woollen blanket any where apart from Myers.

Sure they maybe a rip off, but all the others have to offer are synthetics blankets that don’t work in the Victorian High Country during winter. I'll take wool anytime.

As for buying online, it'll be a dark day in hell before I purchase something sight unseen.

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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 22:57

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 22:57
"Ripped off" is a word people use when they don't understand why some thing is more expensive then a similar product and they think because something looks and feels the same it must be the same.

Being "Ripped off" is when one place sells brand X item for $500 and two other places sell the same brand X for $400.





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Follow Up By: Outa Bounds - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 00:32

Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 00:32
I think it depends on what you're buying. Myers do and can have some really good sales, so they can be cheaper than your Harvey Norman for example in electronic goods. I brought a set of knives off them once (yeah those Mundial ones that are always on sale as a set lol) Myers was no dearer than any other store (like King of Knives or whoever stocks the same thing).

Shopping around weather it's on line or not is always a good thing in my opinion. I like to at least research my purchases on line if possible so that like mentioned above I don't find myself paying $500 at one store when a lot of others are selling the same thing for half that, even if they are interstate! But of course it depends on what you're buying and from what kind of stores, I certainly don't tend to buy stuff through ebay for example, you can just about guarantee most things are knock offs, although I believe some genuine stores do use ebay to sell stuff or just for extra exposure, but like you say it's too much of a lottery with so many fakes coming out of China.

At least you can view a lot of the store sales catalogues on line these days, very handy if like me you live in the country, saves and hour trip just to check out prices!
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Reply By: Member - case h (INT) - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:03

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:03
The best wool and quality must come from New Zealand. Why? because we have 30 million sheep v you guys 50 million kangaroos. Please be kind in your replies, I have Aussie grandies. Regards, case
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Follow Up By: snoopy2 - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 15:25

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 15:25
Hi case h,

When was the last time you looked at the price that NZ wool is getting on the open market and compared it to Australian Wool. Currently NZ wool is getting approx $US2.00 per Kg while Australian Wool is averaging $US7.00. 3 and a half times as much.

Perhaps let your NZ sheep graze and relax more rather that chase them around the paddock :)

Rgds,

Snoopy2
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Reply By: Muntoo - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 14:42

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 14:42
Just be careful of paying top dollar for items that you think are Aussie made.

ILANA seatcovers claim there Aussie made, yet when i purchased one at top dollar, on the label it said MADE IN CHINA. And they just shrugged it off like nothing.
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Reply By: Outa Bounds - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 21:40

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 21:40
Good point.
I was into mountain bikes for a while. You have some brands that are known as "boutique" brands because they're hand made in USA. But there are rules that state something to the effect that if the bike is assembled in the USA or a certain percentage of it, it can then be deemed to be made in the USA. Now obviously they might "hand make" their frames in the USA but all the components come from who knows where (well China) and no doubt the aluminium etc that the frame is composed of is out of China too. Perhaps they just weld it up in the USA.
I suppose it's a bit like food..."made in Australia from local & imported ingredients" how often do you see that.

So I guess it's not all that straight forward, perhaps you are paying premium price for something truly made in Oz with Australian wool etc. Maybe some of the cheaper counterparts use Australian wool but are manufactured in China then sent back to Oz, packaged and deemed to be "Made in Australia". And the cheapest of all would probably be all from China no doubt. Not to mention Austalian Made products that are actually cheaper to purchase in some other country than our own!

$250 for a single is pretty steep though, mind you go to any BigW etc and those synthetic quilts aren't exactly cheap either and then you have to go buy a quilt cover as well, I guess weather it's worth the price depends on which way you look at it. But marketing, profit margins and all that are just a fact of life really.

We usually carry a few of those old woolen army blankets as spares, they don't take up much room but I'm sure wouldn't be anywhere near as warm as your blanket as they are on the thin side. I mainly took interest in this thread because we're thinking of doing away with the sleeping bags and just going with a doona, maybe wool or down.
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Follow Up By: bluefly - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 22:37

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010 at 22:37
I’d certainly go with the doona. I have a very expensive down bag from Europe which was used for climbing, but it’s very restrictive for general camping.

However I think you’re going to find it’s very difficult in Australia to find a genuine doona under a $1,000 that is above 80% pure down. Most of the stuff I've looked at is feather. Expect to pay a large price for the real thing.

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Follow Up By: Outa Bounds - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 00:20

Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 00:20
You know I haven't even thought about that yet, I do realize that your normal doonas only have a miniscule percentage of down and are mostly feathers like you say, but any consideration beyond that fact never even crossed my mind!

I was thinking the down / feather option would be primarily if bulk is an issue, and a nicety because I once had a really nice warm down sleeping bag.
Realistically though, since you've brought up cost I think we would probably be inclined to look at synthetic, it's what we use at home at the moment, I figured I would look into wool doonas as well (assuming there is such a thing) because I imagine it would be better in general.
I don't think there is any way I'd be able to convince Hubby to spend $1000 on a doona though, however he would actually be willing to spend $1000 on an Australian made touring tent! But he did bulk at the cost of Thermarest mattresses so yeah what can I say. I guess one has to be realistic about how often and where we actually go compared to how often and where we would like to go! Lol It's nice to have the best but it's not always necessary. As long as our purchase is an informed one and right for us I think that's all that matters.

And getting back on topic I think it's the same with the woolen blanket you brought, in the end you're the one who has to be satisfied that it was money well spent. I think that's what half the research is about when buying anything, that you're getting something that is suitable for you, that you're getting the best quality you're happy with and that to you it's worth what you're paying for it. So you know what $250 for a single wool blanket might be ridiculous to some but then again so would spending around $100 on a LED torch when you can get one for $20. For some peoples requirements the cheap stuff is more than up to the job I guess, some can't afford the good stuff and well others don't know any better because they've never brought the good stuff through choice or otherwise. And you probably have those who will pay any price just because they can.
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