Second Carvan battery

Submitted: Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 18:37
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I have purchased a second battery for my caravan which will be on an isolator switch for use and charging by the caravan's charging system. The battery is very heavy and I would prefer to locate it to the rear of the van to help counter balance a spare water tank I have put forward. Will moving it further from the charging unit have any effect on charging efficiency?
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Reply By: Racey - Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 18:58

Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 18:58
Hi,

The 2nd battery should be mounted next to, or as close as possible to the 1st battery. This will eliminate uneven charging and discharging.

Cheers

Racey
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Follow Up By: mhquay - Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 19:12

Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 19:12
Thanks for the quick answer Racey, however the two batteries will never be connected at the same time for either use or when being charged.
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Reply By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 20:34

Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 20:34
Hello mhquay,

if your charger has a battery temperature sensor, the limiting factor is the length of its cable, obviously.

Other than that there are no practical limits in terms of distance or charging efficiency. Just ensure the cable is rated higher than the max charging current, select the next bigger gauge, and you'll be fine.

Some might argue there's going to be voltage drop.

So what.
This only will prolong the bulk charging and absorption stages for a few minutes, as the cable loss will heat up the wires by a few degrees, instead of contributing to the chemical reactions inside the battery.
In the end, before the charger switches over to the lower float charging voltage, the current is small, thus voltage drop won't be a factor affecting the voltage set points for boost and float.

Different story though if you had loads like fridge etc connected to the battery, while the charger is some metres away.
Then of course the voltage set points will be off due to the additional load current.
In this case, select thicker wire again.
There is simple maths involved if you want to find out the exact wire dimensions (given the voltage set point limits), depending on distance and load current.

I'll juggle this for you if you tell me the distance battery/charger, and type of load and/or max load current during charging.

cheers, Peter
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 20:37

Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 20:37
so if the two batteries will never be connected at the same time for either use or when being charged, so the battery can be placed in the van anywhere, but the battery charging cable has to be thick.

I assume it's being charged independently by 240v charging system ?

Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 07:24

Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 07:24
As Peter has said, though there may be considerations regarding usage. For a discussion of lots of the factors involved, see our blog Electricity for Camping. Links to wire sizing are towards the end of the blog.

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Reply By: mhquay - Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:09

Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:09
Thanks to everybody who has replied. I am think I have enough info to proceed.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 17:26

Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 17:26
If you are placing it inside the van it needs to be an AGM or if not must be sealed from the inside and vented to the outside.


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Reply By: mhquay - Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 17:58

Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 17:58
Thanks Graham. Its 112 AH AGM.
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