Ford Transit Tyre Wear issue right front inside
Submitted: Monday, Sep 20, 2010 at 20:19
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KenInPerth
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I had an interesting conversation with a workshop today that does wheel alignment as part of their business - not a tyre retailer.
My 2005 Ford Transit has started noticeably chewing out inside of right front tyre. A ford workshop claimed it was just alignment required. Tyres and transit have done about 50,000K.
When I took it to this particular workshop (who I have some degree of faith in) he said straight out that the whole Ford Transit range does the same thing - chews out the inside of the right front tyre and Mercedes (sprinters?? - did not specify) chew out the outside of the left front tyre.
He said they can get the alignment as good as they can but the problem will always remain due to design of the front end - and there are no "kits" available to fix the problem. Only real maintenance type solution is to ideally rotate tyres front to back about every 10K.
So as always curious for comments from others
Ken
Reply By: Eric Experience - Monday, Sep 20, 2010 at 21:11
Monday, Sep 20, 2010 at 21:11
Ken.
I do not have any information about Transits but have done nearly 1 million ks in 4 Sprinters and have not had any tyre wear problems. Eric
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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 06:24
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 06:24
Hi Ken. I have 2 Ford Transit motor homes that I service and due to the weight they are carrying they are hard on tyres. They do not seem to have uneven wear though. Any vehicle should have tyres rotated at a maximum of 10000Kms. Perhaps try to find a smaller independant tyre service and get a second opinion. Regards,Bob
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Follow Up By: KenInPerth - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:42
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:42
Thanks Eric and Bob - interesting comments.
Alignment is a major part of this guys business and he was not trying to sell me something - in fact he was not trying to sell me anything - all he was going to get was a $55 alignment and then he was not pushing it - basically saying there may be nothing wrong with the alignment and he sees it all the time on the Transits.
I wonder if it could have anything to do with the fact that he probably sees mainly courier and delivery vehicles at low weights rather than something like a Motor Home which is permanently heavy??
The van I have just picked up was not used for anything but carrying dogs to shows in
Perth (about a 500K round trip for the previous owner) so it has always run pretty much empty. It did also come from an area where they have bad gravel roads most of the time (potholes) hence it seemed reasonable it may have been knocked out of alignment by the roads.
I guess I will get a new tyre and the unused spare onto the van, align it, and see what happens.
Bob - I will take the advice on rotation
Question - he said just do back to front rotation - is that all you suggest??
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 18:12
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 18:12
Hi again Ken. The tyre co. next door to my business recommend the driving
wheels go up the same side, the trailing
wheels cross to the oposite side. Bob.
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Follow Up By: KenInPerth - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 18:17
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 18:17
Thanks Bob - advice appreciated
Ken
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Reply By: Member - peter f (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:38
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:38
gooday keninperth
I know what you mean ,we have one as a patient transport vehicle in victoria .
same problem . the only way we found to REDUCE !!! the tyre wear is to
set the toe in with 2 people sitting in it . as we found out .the
wheels toe out .the more you add weight
cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: KenInPerth - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:54
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:54
Pete - thanks
That sort of fits with my random uneducated thoughts in my reply to Bob's comment - this van has basically done all it's life empty and will continue to do so for a while with me - as compared to a motor home. I respect that Bob obviously works at the pointy end of this sort of stuff though.
Also I think full Motor Homes are built on a cab chassis as compared to a Camper Van which uses the van - but no idea if they would set the front ends up differently between the various types. Given the variation in weights commercial vehicles carry I guess they have to set up based on a pre-determined average if it going to affect the front end - or maybe the Transit is just a bad design??
Ken
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Follow Up By: Member - peter f (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:15
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:15
hi ken ,
its a pity that someone hasn,t gone to the effort to make a camber kit to fix the problem . unfornutately the manufactures don,t see it as we do .
our benz ambulances have virtually no adjustment on them .
near enough is what you get .
Pete
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Follow Up By: KenInPerth - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:23
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:23
That is basically what the guy was telling me - they can fiddle with them a bit but not do much at all - something to do with the fact that instead of the shaft having a couple of bolts on them that allows adjustment, the unit is clamped together and so you get what you get.
Thanks for you information.
Ken
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Follow Up By: Eric Experience - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 20:59
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 20:59
Pete.
Sprinters are easy to adjust, moving the cross member adjusts caster and slots in the holes in the struts does the camber, toein is done in the usual way. Eric
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Reply By: Expletive - Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:00
Tuesday, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:00
Ken i had a 2001 Transit Motorhome which scrubbed the tyres also not sure if left or right now,had it in for alignment after getting new tyres & was promptly told you cannot align them as they are designed for roads in europe.You just have to keep rotating the tyres.
Bob.
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