HF Radio

Seeking information, as to where I can buy an HF radio
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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 13:38

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 13:38
The HF Radio Club sells them. HF Radio Club, - For Sale
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 13:58

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 13:58
They range from around $4000 new down to $500 used - what is you budget ?
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Reply By: blue one - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 14:56

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 14:56
John,
Talk to Peter from Lara Electronics, I have found him to a fair and reasonable source of information.

Google Codan or Barrett and the 2nd hand units for sale should be shown.

A NGT & 9350 aerial will set you back around $3400

A good 9323 & 9350 aerial will set you back around $1500

Not sure about the Barrett's as I have always had Codan, though they do seem to cost less than Codan.

There are a few other minor players in the market, yet these two are the most popular.

What you choose be it Codan or Barrett with a auto - tune aerial or a tapped one is all personal preference.

Just read up on the different units and make your choice.


Cheers
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Reply By: Andrew & Jen - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 15:35

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 15:35
Hullo John
One source is the VKS737 website and click on shop > market place and you will see a number of second hand units for sale.
The Barrett 950 is good value - often available with auto tune for < $2000.
Codan and Barrett are built to withstand the vibrations, etc, of 4wd life, unlike, I am told, most of the HF ham radio units.
Cheers
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - res.q.guy (Vic.) - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 15:53

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 15:53
Hi John
You could try Telstat
or
HF Radio
Cheers
Neil
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 16:49

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 16:49
Perhaps a look on the TRADER section on here wouldnt go astray as there seems to be at least 4 for sale on there at the moment..

Jeeez
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 17:54

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 17:54
John,

I'm far from being an expert but would a Sat phone be better and cheaper and less cumbersome and also portable if you only require it for emergency purposes??? Michael
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 07:50

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 07:50
Hi Michael,
I went through this very question a few years ago. I hired both at various times and eventually bought a HF. The reasoning is simple...... if you're in strife, there just may be someone over the next dune who can help. With a Sat phone, that "someone" won't know he/she is needed.

Cheers
Brian


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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:52

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:52
Except you cant talk to the person over the next dune with an HF It generally has to be relayed back to them as an HF is a long range radio.

A UHF would be better in that situation
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:58

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:58
Yes... correct. But I was speaking more hypothetically. The next sand dune might be quite a distance away. The inference is that there is a wider audience, rather than just someone on the end of the phone line who "might" answer "if" you have signal.

This has been my experience with both HF and Sat phone.... when we hired Sat phones, we NEVER saw signal on one! Not once! That was as of 3 years ago, I believe things have gotten better of late, but I noted that whenever I call VKS on my HF, someone always answers..... even if it's someone who has to "relay" to a base for me.

It works for us, that's all I require of it. If it's not anybody else's cuppa tea, that's OK too!!

Cheers

Brian



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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 12:08

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 12:08
You probably hired a Globalsat phone and thats why it didnt work.

Absolute rubbish.


In contrast I have NEVER Failed to get a signal on my Iridium phone over the last 2 1/2 years.

Also helps if the aerial is pointed in the correct position.

Had an HF and never needed it so sold it in WA.

Horses for courses I guess.


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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 12:12

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 12:12
Good call Graham, they were Globalstar! All 3 of 'em! And also, you're right about the horses for courses thing, I used HF out in the Simpson mostly for weather and road conditions more than anything else. I am one of the HF "fans"... LOL...

Cheers

Brian


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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 19:38

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 19:38
Actually guys that isn't correct.

A H.F. Radio will have more range than a UHF over short distances but it misses out on the 50km to several hundred km section as the mode of propagation
changes to sky wave.

Its quite reasonable to expect solid HF radio performance out to some 50km and for these reasons another potentially useful feature of HF is to reach out to 27mhz AM truckies on nearby roads , so keep this as a channel.



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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 19:53

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 19:53
Roughly how many truckies would have an AM 27meg radio these days.

Have found you just about have to give them away to get rid of them except for boaties



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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 20:09

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 20:09
Don't know Graham - but plenty of people use 27mhz ssb hear in melbourne, right now there are several active channels with nothing on VKS-737 , I think it must have had a minor re-surgence.

Maybe its all the junk on UHF - but I have re-instated a couple of my ssb CB's for comms around town , and the 125w from my Barret 950 really lays down a solid local signal into them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:23

Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:23
Hi Robin
Not surprised at all that you answered that.
I have thought about bringing my set up back home in between trips there.
Would propagation work over that distance?
There is a very small club here in N.Z. it would be good to be able to communicate with them as well & VKS 737, instead of only using it for 2-3 months a year.
I have some DVD's working now, coming soon.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Nigel Migraine - Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:38

Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:38
"but it misses out on the 50km to several hundred km section as the mode of propagation changes to sky wave."

That'll come as a major surprise to many people who operate in the 3MHz to 8MHz region.

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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 19:42

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 19:42
Ebay.
Mine was a refurbished ex WA police unit and came with multi tap aerial and spring base for about a $1000
I bought mine from seller called underdunks, has sold heaps of them. He lives near Ipswitch (Brisbane).
He invited me back after I installed it just to make sure I had done it correctly and also SWR (tuned) my antenna for optimum performance
I had a problem with a unit I bought from him 12 months after I bought it No offer of warranty (nor was it expected), but happy to have a look for me and he change the button panel which was found to be faulty, no hurdles or BS and no charge
This bloke knows his stuff and has a very good reputation and feedback reflects this,

Shane
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Follow Up By: Stu & "Bob" - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:06

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:06
I'll second those comments, and add that David is a real gentleman of the old school.

He does have a website here with lots of good information and stuff for sale.

HTH
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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 12:54

Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 12:54
Thanks for the link Stu & Bob..... I've saved it for future reference!

Cheers

Brian


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Reply By: Member -Ted - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:46

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:46
Give Graham or Carol a call at G&C Communications in Cranbourne, on 59963298 .I have a Barret 950 and it has been fantastic insurance for my wife and myself as we do a lot of outback offroad on our own, the VKs network is terrific and the base operators are very helpful with reports of road conditions etc.
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 06:51

Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 06:51
Hi Ted.
I can endorse VKS 737
I travel own my own a lot and when away from the cities contact VKS737 at least once every 24 hrs...
I think the system and the operators are fantastic.
The reassurance that your location and destination is logged on the computer along with the ability to research weather and road conditions, also the fact if family need to contact me all they need to do is leave a message on the system. Then I can turn the sat.phone on, get to where there is reception (ie turn it on, put the antenna up and be in view of the sky) and give them a call. I can listen to and use the HF from my bed if I want to!.
The sub is the best value for money of all.
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 07:12

Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 07:12
I just wish we had a similar sytem here in N.Z.
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