EPIRB Activated between Innaminka and Birdsville

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Interesting to see what happened - hope all is OK

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 20:59

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 20:59
Hi Tony
Here is an example from the GME web site, showing just how good the GPS enabled units are.

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Greek Tragedy averted by GME beacon13th September, 2010
Pirates, rogue waves and an unscheduled visit to Santorini were certainly not on the radar for New Zealanders Jeremy Burfoot, Travis Donohoe, and Croatian Ivan Otulic when they planned their “Ultimate Ride” on Sea-doos from London to Auckland.
The 32,000km Ultimate Ride had partnered with a number of cancer organisations around the world to promote a message of healthy living, cancer prevention and to raise funds for cancer research.
Sadly, the odyssey was called off on Sunday August 29 when the team reached Fenike, on the south coast of Turkey en route to the Suez Canal. Advice from the NZ department of Foreign Affairs indicated that the risk of terrorist and piracy attacks in Yemen had risen to an unacceptable level and the trio would have been prime targets
Further drama then unfolded in the Aegean Sea as the riders were making their way back towards Croatia to return their Sea-doos. A massive Aegean storm struck on the morning of Tuesday, August 31, by 8am the weather had deteriorated to a level where they found themselves battling 60 to 70 kilometres per hour head winds and battling 3 to 4 metre waves.
After 3 hours of continuous punishment all three Sea-doos were beginning to take on water and were unable to make any headway in the extreme conditions. At this point Burfoot, a highly experienced and well prepared mariner made the decision to activate their GME MT410G Personal Locater Beacons, and wait for rescue.
Being GPS equipped PLBs, the distress signals were detected by the COSPAS SARSAT Geo Stationery satellites with a few minutes, providing the search and rescue authorities with accurate position coordinates and details of the activated beacons owners.
The Greek Air Force and the Santorini Coastguard coordinated the rescue effort that culminated with all three men being safely lifted ashore by helicopter.
Back on terra firma, team leader Burfoot thanked his rescuers for their total professionalism, helpful and friendly attitude. He further stated that the GME beacons had saved their lives.
Such position accuracy and rapid detection is only available with GPS equipped beacons, standard 406MHz beacons relay on the Low Earth Orbiting satellites and emergency signals can take several hours to be detected and then only to a position accuracy of approximately 5 kilometres.
GME PLBs are available from authorised dealers in Australia and right around the world. For additional information on GME and the COSPAS SARSAT system, visit 'Emergency Beacons' from the 'Products' menu.

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Follow Up By: Happy Frank - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:10

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:10
Sounds like advertising to me
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:24

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:24
We carry one - But will not find those conditions where I drive :-)

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Follow Up By: roberttbruce - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:52

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:52
not advertising, very true...

when Iridium went bust about decade or ago they had 177 leo's in orbit...

they were left in a decaying orbit eventually to fall to the ground...that's why the accuracy is so bland
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Follow Up By: Flynnie - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 22:44

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 22:44
I have one of those GME MT410Gs and it is good to know they work. It lives behind the passenger seat of the landcruiser. At times I have wondered what the threshold is for when they should be used. In the GME example above the decision to activate seems to have been a very late decision. Not criticising. Could be wrong. Just wondering how serious has it got to be before they can legitimately be used as intended.

Though I got mine for desperate situations in remote travel I can see some situations where it could be handy closer to home.

Any opinions or examples of when it is fair enough to activate one?

Flynnie
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 07:45

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 07:45
The general rule as I understand it is that activation is acceptable if the situation is "potentially" life threatening. That is of course interpretable differently by every person, and that is acceptable. If I was stranded for a week in July on the Anne Beadell with a breakdown that I could not repair I might not see that as life threatening. It might be different in January and it might be different for a bunch of less prepared travellers in July.

I have my Australian registered PLB with us in Fiji. Who knows about the local ferries?

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Follow Up By: Anotheone - Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:35

Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:35
I am one of the team that works on the beacon box and then coordinates the response, so maybe these comments are helpful (but are not official :) )

Regarding when to use it, as it is a distress beacon it should be when life is in imminent threat, however there is no hard and fast rules really. The main guide is dont use it too late, for example if you break down/get bogged on a little used road dont wait till you are down to the little or no food and water. Do it earlier as sometimes it can take awhile to actually arrange the rescue. Better to find a healthy family then one that requires medical attention who waited till the last moment to activate the beacon.

Preferably do it well before it goes dark as well, in remote areas once we get the detection it can sometimes be easier to get local aircraft to fly out to the area and see what the problem is - so they will be restricted by daylight, even with the well equipped sar aircraft there are restrictions at night. If you have one standby your uhf radio as the main fixed wing aircraft (dorniers) carry UHF as do many local aircraft.

If you turn it on, leave it on until you are rescued and told to turn it off - sounds like "suck egg" stuff but there have been occasions when people turn them on and off to "save battery" but it hinders the location process. Put the beacon in a nice clear area so that it can have an unhindered view of the satellites. If you get going again - as in someone comes along and saves you, please make sure you let us know as soon as possible.

Please ensure you register it (its free) there is nothing worse then looking for an unregistered beacon. Do it online and then you can easily go in an update your details. For most people in this forum it is great if you can include details of your proposed trip, details of your vehicle (colour type rego) and who is travelling with you.

Oh and if you have any of the old ones, please replace them and dispose of them properly (any batteryworld) - we are still wasting many resources chasing the old ones - most of which are found in tips.

Hope that helps

Pete
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Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:22

Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:22
"If you have one standby your uhf radio as the main fixed wing aircraft (dorniers) carry UHF as do many local aircraft."


What channel would they use?


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Follow Up By: Anotheone - Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:28

Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:28
to be honest we dont give them a set one, probably use 5 and 40 however they can scan so if they start flying over you give them a call.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 13:56

Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 13:56
Hi Pete
Thanks for that, that should help a lot of readers out.

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Reply By: rocco2010 - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:20

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:20
Gidday

news wires are reportring that a man has been found safe and well. Beacon was activated accidently it seems

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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:25

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 21:25
Sounds like that would be the case - Lets Hope so - Cheers
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 22:38

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 22:38
Yes it was reported "Short Activation" so one may assume accidental, although you can do testing without activating.?
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 22:55

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2010 at 22:55
Great.........they've found him. Now they can pass on the bill for wasting the emergency services time ;-)

Cheers Craig..............
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 07:48

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 07:48
As long as the emergency services were not diverted away from another 'real' job, their time was not wasted. So therefore, no cost. How mean spirited!

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Follow Up By: Nutta - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 22:10

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2010 at 22:10
I suppose anyone could accidentally trigger one, at least it gives them a practice run which they probably don't get much off.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:15

Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:15
".... at least it gives them a practice run which they probably don't get much off."
I have a good friend in the Police search & rescue squad. Let me asure you they DON'T need practice chasing false alarms. That's why they changed to registering PLB's, to avoid tieing up recources. You don't actually think the police are just sitting around waiting for a call do you?
"...no cost. How mean spirited!" Of course there is an additional cost running around looking for people particually when aircraft are brought into the search.
If I was silly enough to set of a PLB without due cause I would expect to have to pay some fine or if proven it was activated on purpose pay the entire search cost. Saying "Whoops my bad" doesn't cut it in my book.
Cheers Craig.............
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Follow Up By: Anotheone - Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:54

Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:54
haha agree about not needing the practice, in my last shift yesterday we coordinated response to a boat that sank off WA, a small boat up north, looked for a beacon on the sunshine coast, had a 2 accidental activations which were resolved in the first phone call and then spent 6 hours chasing an old style beacon around the newman area
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:56

Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:56
Sounds like a fun shift Anotherone.? Did you find the old style beacon, do you still need to monitor those.?
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Follow Up By: Anotheone - Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:17

Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:17
TerraFirma, when I left the search for it was still going. We dont monitor for the old ones (satellites no longer do it) but as some aircraft monitor the frequency we still get reports and then we have to chase them as they may be a distress situation. The other issue is that if they are going they can hide a real distress signal - as rescue aircraft home on the 121.5 signal of the new beacons.

Generally most of the old beacons are in rubbish tips We get aircraft to locate the old one and confirm its not a distress. and then use contactors, police or volunteers to "go through the rubbish"
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Follow Up By: Anotheone - Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:54

Thursday, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:54
"go through the rubbish"

should add that - its not the greatest job to ask them to do though but very much appreciated
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