Help needed Diff problems on Navara
Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 13, 2010 at 22:55
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Johnny B Good
To cut long story short I have a 2007 Nissan Navara STX. I have had ongoing issues with the rear Diff on this Ute since purchasing it back in 07.
It stated round 23,000km with a whining noise in 08 since then it has been back to Nissan over a half a dozen times to have bearing changed and seals changed etc for the last 3 years. The ute has only ever been serviced and fixed at Nissan and i have had this problem since new
In March this year it ran out of Warranty. Now the Diff has completely destroyed its self because the bolt holding the pinion in has come loose, the pinion has intruded into the Diff damaging the crown wheel and the pinion. I have taken this up with Nissan Australia and now they do not want to come to the party.
I would like to know if anyone has dealt with Nissan Australia with a issue and any advise would be greatly appreciated
Reply By: Flynnie - Wednesday, Oct 13, 2010 at 23:07
Wednesday, Oct 13, 2010 at 23:07
Nephew's business Navara blew its diff when only a few weeks old. Nissan fixed it. Maybe you might have got a better result if the diff destroyed itself earlier instead of the ongoing repairs and then failing out of warranty.
I would suggest looking for a decent aftermarket diff.
Flynnie
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Reply By: skmaint (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 13, 2010 at 23:44
Wednesday, Oct 13, 2010 at 23:44
Johnny,
If Nissan were the only ones to work on the diff and the pinion has come loose, there is only one person to blame.....if the diff was assembled correctly there is no way it should have come loose. Nissan know they have a problem with their diffs in the Navaras but will not recall or in your case come to the party after warranty, even though it has been an ongoing issue.
Keep fighting them. I hope it works out for you.
Cheers
Simon.
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Follow Up By: Johnny B Good - Wednesday, Oct 13, 2010 at 23:57
Wednesday, Oct 13, 2010 at 23:57
You are not wrong there, They are already getting bad publicity from this and they know they have issues with there Diffs. What I don't know is how to deal with such a a big company?
I will fight all they way if I have to
thanks Simon and Karen
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 01:53
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 01:53
Johnny
Rest assured I know if 6 people in
Kununurra who have experienced diff problems with Nissans, and three of them have returned their vehicles to the car yards and managed to get a Toyota instead.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 20:54
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 20:54
I was going to say rubbish! But bow to your close personal knowledge of these Nissan owners who just managed to get a Toyota instead.....spoken like a true Yotaphile! There is simply no evidence that Nissan diffs are worse than any other - in fact quite the opposite there is no stronger driveline than that fitted to Patrols and I've certainly not heard of Navara diffs throwing the claw in either. Just check the Navara forums - lots of other issues but diffs are not among them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 23:03
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 23:03
Hi Patrol 22
I firmly believe that some of the people that had the problems were not the greatest off road drivers, but there you do.
Yes I own a Toyota at the moment, but have had a variety of 4 wd over the years. The Hilux suits because it allow the wife and I, and the two grannnies in kid seats in the back, and my old mate in the photo.
He's a 14 year old blue heeler, and his daily excercise is usually the short distance to the car, and wait under it in case I want to go somewhere, but there you go. He actually used to sleep in my vehicle when I had a Pajero, but will not sleep in the Hilux, so yep, I must be a Yotaphile, because the dog isn't.
The favourite car that I had was a Landrover back in the 70's, and a mixed variety since. By the way, my father in law has just bought a reconditioned Nissan, and the fuel stopped getting to the motor the second time he tried to start it, so figure that one out.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: skmaint (WA) - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 00:41
Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 00:41
I know of two minesites that had nothing but trouble with their Navara diffs in various vehicles.I own a 2006 Navara myself from new (no trouble yet touch wood) I dont like baging any vehicle manufacturer but I do get upset when that manufacturer wont admit they have a fault with their product. Clutches were another example of a Navara problem but would Nissan recall or admit they had a problem....NO.
All makes have their ups and downs but these companies need to start thinking about their customers and looking after them otherwise they are just going to jump into another make.
But I suppose at the end of the day I am just a pittence, I would not comprimise their annual turnover if I bought a Toyoto or Mitsi. But I hope you see my point.
cheers
Simon.
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Follow Up By: Johnny B Good - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 15:40
Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 15:40
Just so you all know this is my second Navara I have had and have had Nissan's for over six years. My Navara is mainly set up for long distance travel and for touring as I live in the South West of WA. I know some people just have no clue when it comes to 4wding but living in the bush you see a lot more idot's out there getting stuck when the touist head to town.
I had a bit of a No we carn't help you but with good bit of advies from the fourm and a bit of leagal jumbo its back on the go waiting for photos to be sent and phone call
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 08:53
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 08:53
In quite a few cases I have read about over the years, If there is a paperwork trail from all the repairs that they have done to your diff and it is still an issue even after the warranty runs out, then with the help of the dept of fair trading nissan may be persuaded to come to the party.
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Reply By: oz doc - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:17
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:17
HI Johnny, I would suggest to start by outlining your situation in writing, including what you expect Nissan to do to resolve the situation. Ask your local Nissan dealer or Head Office whom you address your claim, and subsequent legal action to and try to deal with this one person from then on. Everything must be in writing. Emails are acceptable. Keep all service reports and invoices. If you are missing one, get the Nissan service to print out a copy- they have them on computer. Make sure you ask for all service comments and not just the invoices.Then locate a lawer for some basic advice on how to proceed with a claim against them. You can usually get the first 30 minutes free, and even if you only have to pay for 1 houur of advice- this may be enough to outline the basic steps for taking action against Nissan.Then you can refer to this lawer in your correspondance with Nissan. By doing this you will show Nissan that your are prepared to take action(even if you have no intention of going through with the entire legal rigmarole) and a serious claimant. Getting to this stage may get them to place more weight on your claims and come to the party. I think that with many companies, they will initially deny all claims and liabilities in the first even because many people will give up at that stage. Hope this helps, doc.
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Reply By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:14
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:14
Johnny B Good
try looking for your answers on this
forum..........
Navara Forum
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:48
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:48
I used to own a GU Patrol and it did a flywheel just out of warranty. It cost me ~$2,500 to have a new clutch and flywheel installed and Nissan Australia didn't want to know me at all - who expects more than 105,000kms out of a flywheel !!!
I followed up with Department of Fair Trading and Nissan finally gave me a $1,000 cheque with no admission of fault. I spoke with my cheque book and bought a Landcruiser 200. I will never step foot in a Nissan yard again - this was not the only issue I had but was typical of Nissan Australia support of their product.
Cheers
Captain
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Reply By: anglepole - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 13:45
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 13:45
I think you have a very good case to have Nissan come to the party. If you have reported the problem during warranty period they cannot lawfully keep putting a bandage over it the warranty runs out.
Besides they are required by law to sell items that are "fit for service".
As others have stated, write to Nissan with copies of documents and seek advise from Consumer Affairs.
They are probably trying to
bluff you.
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