Diesel inside the wagon??

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 16, 2010 at 18:31
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Next time we go into more remote areas I would like to carry a bit more diesel. Two choices I have with the landcruiser is a long range tank underneath, or some jerry cans in the back of the wagon.

Does anyone carry diesel inside a wagon? How safe is this stuff when things go wrong?

regards

John
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Reply By: Member - gujimbo - Saturday, Oct 16, 2010 at 18:40

Saturday, Oct 16, 2010 at 18:40
Hi John,

On our extended trips we usually carry 5 metal gerry cans (PRO QUIP yellow brand) behind the cargo barrier in the GU , and as we use up the fuel the empty cans live on the roof rack.
Never had any problems carrying diesel fuel this way, just ensure a snug fit use the locking pins on the cap and place rubber between the cans to stop rubbing.

Regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Vince B (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 16, 2010 at 22:31

Saturday, Oct 16, 2010 at 22:31
Hi John.
I also carrry gerry cans behind the cargo barrier & never had a problem.
Cheers.
Vince
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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Saturday, Oct 16, 2010 at 20:07

Saturday, Oct 16, 2010 at 20:07
G`day John,
I don`t know how bad things could get if things go wrong, a fire is a possibility but Desiel is not as bad as petrol or gas, otherwise it might be just a smelly,oily mess depending upon how bad things go wrong.
I carried three of the black plastic jerry cans in the wagon on the canning SR this year, I put each one in a black Garbage Bag and tied the top, this prevented any smell of diesel.
No problems at all, just pack them tight with a bit of something between to prevent rubbing.

Regards,

Scrubby.
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Reply By: jdbb - Sunday, Oct 17, 2010 at 08:22

Sunday, Oct 17, 2010 at 08:22
Thanks for the replies.

I would prefer to use jerry cans - a much cheaper option than a long range tank given the number of times I would actually need the extra fuel.

I just wasn't sure how safe diesel would be in a rollover or other serious accidents - was concerned that it might go boom.

regards

John
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Reply By: Member - Vern - Sunday, Oct 17, 2010 at 08:40

Sunday, Oct 17, 2010 at 08:40
John

I carried 4 Yellow Diesel jerry cans in the back of my 4x4 in the back secured to the cargo barrier on a trip through the centre and across the desert and had no issues at all no smell no movement. As long as you secure the cans well I can not see any issues.
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Reply By: OzTroopy - Sunday, Oct 17, 2010 at 09:10

Sunday, Oct 17, 2010 at 09:10
Padding between the containers and secured to prevent bouncing and jiggling forward ... as the others have mentioned ..... and you're good to go.

If you're prone to having things go wrong .... being in involved in rollovers etc .... I'd suggest an alternative fuel carrying method as spilt diesel makes your carpets smell funny.






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Reply By: Member - mazcan - Sunday, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:41

Sunday, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:41
hi jdbb
a good item to use to stop gerry cans rubbing together i have found is
get some off cuts of the thicker type of floor vynil it has worked well for me on several trips and does;nt wear out or take up much space between cans
if you want to it can be stuck to the jerrycans permantely with roof and gutter silicon
this saves bothering with loose pieces all the time when removing the cans to top up tank
cheers
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Reply By: Honky - Monday, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:10

Monday, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:10
It is very hard to light diesel even with a match unless it is on a combustable material ie paper.
it will not ignite by itself unless very hot.
You can try a bit in a bowl and through in a match, it will go out.

Honky
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Reply By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Monday, Oct 18, 2010 at 13:17

Monday, Oct 18, 2010 at 13:17
Hi
I carried 2 Jerrys plastic type. I put them on at the rear of the troopy on a thick layer of newspaper over rubber matting, used the newspaper for padding in between and any thing also they might rub on
Travelled the Anne Beadall then the Canning with not a leak or even a smell of diesel in the camper.the paper was in demand to light the camp fire on the wet nights we experienced.
Felt confident enough to buy another jerry when I come back east on the Talawana, Gary Highway then on to Alice, probably did not need to carry the fuel for that but thought might as well use the cheaper fuel.
I asked the same question a while ago but the response was limited.
The last thing one would need would be the smell of diesel in the living cooking sleeping area.
The only thing I would suggest would be to replace the Jerrys every couple of trips or so, hard to estimate the wear on the bottoms with the corrugations and vibrations, better to fork out a few dollats than lose the fuel and have the smell and the mess if a can fails .
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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, Oct 18, 2010 at 15:48

Monday, Oct 18, 2010 at 15:48
like others I carry 2 plastic jerries all the time and have done for years

no chance of diesal igniting due to a spark or such like

biggest issue would be the mess a leaking jerry would make,

being in a confined space you would almost certainly detect a leak immediatly
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Monday, Oct 18, 2010 at 16:08

Monday, Oct 18, 2010 at 16:08
Back again
Dollats ?? and I did use spell check. Must be something to do with the current exchange rate.
Anyway, why I use newspapers is if something does happen to leak they are easy to dispose of and cheap to replace and hopefully soak up minor leakages, I must admit they do wear out, but then better to wear out old news than a Jerry can full of diesel.
I was concerned about carrying fuel inside the vehicle but after 20,000 ks on the last trip.
No Problem.
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