Bent towbar - what to do?
Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:04
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Had an incident on my last trip. I was carrying 3 bikes on a towball mounted bike carrier and the road between Armidale and
Grafton was very 'bouncy'. This caused the bikes to shift further to the rear of the carrier and with all the weight concentrated at the rear, the towbar ended up bending. Can the towbar be repaired or am I likely to have to replace the whole thing? It's a standard towbar - not the hitch variety.
Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:41
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:41
Throw it away & get a stronger one. They are not that expensive in the scale of things & if you don't upgrade it will only bend again.
Cheers Craig.........
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Follow Up By: garbage - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:46
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:46
They are if you go with Hayman Reese though :(
I was quoted $800+ at the time.
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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 17:01
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 17:01
$800 is cheap compared to if the towbar let go/snapped and bikes ended up killing some one because they swerved to miss them after they come away from your vehicle ?? I have often wondered how some of these towbars end up as I have seen alot of bike racks mounted to towbars and the flex of them jumping up and down swaying back and
forth always made me wonder if any have ever bent/snapped towbars. Some people think that because its a big chunk of metal it will never snap, have seen a 120 prado with snapped tongue and this was not your average towbar but a heavy duty but was a van on the back not pushbikes. Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Lyndon C (TAS) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:10
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:10
Kimba you are so right. Just think back to Uri Geller and his spoon bending.
Well the steel of towbars is pretty much the same, constant bending and flexing with weight tends to weaken them just the same, and eventually they give up the Ghost. Anyone constantly towing etc. over long distances, should from time to time check their towing apparell for signs of weakness and dislocation from the chassis. Happy towing, Lyndon.
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Reply By: Member - Tezza Qld - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:46
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:46
Hi If the tongue is welded to the towbar then I would be replacing the complete towbar. If the towing tongue bent with pushbikes on it then any heating up and straightening would probably make the tongue weaker.
Cheers Teza
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Follow Up By: garbage - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:55
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:55
Cheers Teza. I'll have a look under and see how it's connected.
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Reply By: Gronk - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:27
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:27
If you bent a towbar carrying 3 pushbikes ( I presume it was pushies ) I would be very wary towing any sort of trailer with the same towbar......
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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:17
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:17
I agree.
I would be throwing that towbar as far as i could.
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 17:35
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 17:35
Replace the towbar completely as it seems you have a cheapie .
Yes Haymen are dear but they are the best you can get.
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Follow Up By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 19:05
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 19:05
Muntoo & Dodger & others, I reckon you are spot on. Seems the tow bar is a bit of a cheapie. A couple of pushbikes, regardless whether they moved or not, are not much of a load.
$800 might not be much if you consider the safety of other road users & for that matter the value of your bikes.
And, just as a matter of interest, 4 or 5 years ago we had a HR bar fail on us in the
Cobar area. It would have been a simple welding job to repair it, but none of the local engineering/welding
places in
Cobar would touch it because of Liability concerns, so we had to wait for a complete new one to a arrive.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 21:04
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 21:04
I have a mate who worked in a tow bar fitting workshop.
He would never carry push-bikes on a tow bar mounted rack. He said that most of the damaged tow bars he took off vehicles had only ever carried bikes.
Imagine bolting a 1.5 metre long bar onto your towbar sticking strait out the back. Then mount three push-bikes and drive along any of the main roads in Australia. That is exactly what you do with a bike rack. It is a looooong lever. The continuous bouncing as the vehicle travels along the road and that is lot of potential damage.
The other thing he said was that a significant number of towbars are not mounted properly. No matter what the brand if it is not mounted properly that will compound any problems associated with load.
Personally I think there are better ways to carry your bike. And I have had my head under the back of my car to make sure all the bolts are in and tight.
Duncs
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Follow Up By: garbage - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 21:16
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 21:16
Thanks for the reply. I agree, it's a tonne of weight on what is essentially a long lever. The bikes would wobble like crazy on an undulating road.
Do you think the hitch mounted
bike carriers are any better?
Where do you carry your bikes? I need to carry 3, so I'm not sure there's enough room on the roof racks.
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Reply By: SDG - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 22:54
Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 22:54
What type of car to you drive. I'm using a bike rake rack that attaches to the spare wheel.
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Follow Up By: garbage - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 08:20
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 08:20
I have a Subaru
Liberty wagon.
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Reply By: Outa Bounds - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:13
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:13
I don't have any association with this company, I just know that they make strong
bike carriers, some of which are designed for downhill mountain bikes that can weight 20kg each or so (mind you so can standard KMart bikes!).
Anyway just thought I'd post the link in case you did end up looking for new types of bike carrier options...
GripSport
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Reply By: Nargun51 - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 14:50
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 14:50
I am going through the thought processes of trying to work out how to carry 1 push bike when towing (the tyre cover on a NS Pajero protrudes too far to fit the bike rack I used on 4 previous cars)
My current plan is to fit a length of C channel the length of wheel base of the bike to the A frame of the van as close as possible to the van behind the gas bottle. The
wheels can be held in place in the channel by straps; the bike held up by more C channel supporting the crank and pedal arm and the whole thing held in place by a web of tensioned straps. There is just enough room for this to work
Any better ideas or constructive criticism?
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 18:31
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 18:31
Bikes are a pain.
There are a numer of ooptions for carrying bikes. The best is to leave them at home.
Ok so accepting that the preffered option is not going to happen, here are a couple of others.
If you don't have a tailgate mounted spare there are carriers available that hook to the tailgate and can carry 4 bikes.
If you have a spare on the rear of the car, carriers are available that mount to the spare wheel.
Put them on the trailer is another option.
I made a a carrier that would mount on the spare. The beauty of this for me is that the spare on the camper is mounted on the front of the trailer and is exceptionally strong. I could carry the bikes on either the car or the trailer.
I was never keen on carrying the bikes on the car because the door hinges were carrying enough.
Now the kids have grown they just want to drive the car, the bikes stay home, problem solved.
Duncs
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Follow Up By: garbage - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 20:54
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 20:54
I have a trailer and also have a spot for it on the A frame. Will go with that option next time I have the trailer with me. I also need a means to carry the bikes on the car as we don't always take the trailer with us. Don't have a spare wheel, so the roof rack or the towbar appear to be the only options.
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