How long do Alternators last?
Submitted: Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:38
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Member - Snoopy2 (NSW)
Hi everyone, I have a 100 series Landcruiser with the petrol 4.5ltr motor which is just over 10 years old and it now has 275,000 Klms on the clock. Everything is running
well, including the clutch which is still original. Apart form normal
services, everything is still original.
I have duel batteries installed, mainly to run the fridge, and I'm wondering how the bearings etc in the Alternator are holding up. Is there a "normal" life span where they need to be overhauled or is it a case of letting it run until it starts to play up. I'm asking because I'm planning a trip in about 6 weeks time from
Sydney to
Kangaroo Island via
Broken Hill and returning via
Lake Mungo. There will be some off road running but nothing really heavy going.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Michael
Reply By: Member - mazcan - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:00
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:00
hi snoopy 2
from my experiences with alternators and that sort of k's on the clock
i would advise you to have it serviced or at least put some new bearings in it if it still has full output
as your bearings imho are at the end of there life span and could fail any day once they seize you could destroy the drive belt/splus total the unit the bearings dont cost much if you can do the job yourself
before my last outback trip i replaced
mine and and also replaced the bearings in
and the bearings on the idler tension pulleys that are on my mazda and found them to be on the way out ( i'm not familar withset up on lc100)
but murphy's law applys to all although they were still in a servicable state when i pulled them out there is nothing like having piece of mind these small things are a pain if they fail in isolated areas
and its such an important component
the risk is yours and how long you wish to push your luck
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Snoopy2 (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:04
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:04
Hi Mazcan,
Good advice. Replacing the bearings is probably a good idea. I'll also
check the bearings in the tension pully as
well. Should not cost too much.
Thanks and cheers,
Michael
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Follow Up By: Star Bug - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:54
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:54
As other have said..... Exposure to dirt, dust, water.....will see the early demise of an alternators bearings. Build up of oil/dirt/dust in the windings will cause overheating and premature failure. Over tensioned Vee belts used to be a bearing killer, but it not so much a problem now with auto tensioned polly V belts.
Change the bearings and any dust seals, check/replace brushes, clean any build up of dirt/dust/oil, tighten conections,
check your belt system, and it should be OK.
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 14:37
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 14:37
Hi Snoopy2
Now admittedly I live in an area which is not vehicler friendl;y, and I drive a 4 cylinder 3 litre diesel Hilux, with 260,000 + km on the clock since I bought it in 2000 new.
I am on my fourth alternator, third starter motor, third radiator and I have lost count of how many belts and filters. The actual structural frame is now starting to show cracks, some I have migged up, but the old girl is getting ready for retirement.
The area where I am has no bitumen at all, and we range from sand, to soft dirst, to mud to extremely corrugated road, so I am proud of my Hilux and how it has done the journey over teh years.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Mrbrush - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 23:22
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 23:22
You probably wont believe this, But my old hilux 89` model 2.8d, bought it at 97,000kms in 94`.
Alternator light began flashing at around 400,000kms from memory and eventually stayed on. So it was obvious that the brushes were gone.
Replaced brushes with a new set and alternator is still good at 648,000 by the clock.
Engine reco`ed at 500,000kms.
Alternator was not touched.
2nd starter in 1998.
not including 15% increase for speedo due to larger tyres which should have my speedo clock at around 740,000kms by now.
YES it`s just a work truck.
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Friday, Oct 22, 2010 at 16:28
Friday, Oct 22, 2010 at 16:28
Hi MrBrush
No reason not to believe you my friend. I know my Hilkux gets heaps more punishment than the average 4x4, and that is just in daily driving.
Cheers
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Reply By: trainslux - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:50
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:50
Remove the belts, spin the alternator, if bearings are ok, then I would suggest that you just remove, and replace the brushes.
If its still making the correct amps and volts, and no bearing noise, thats all I would do.
With my hilux, I just replaced the brushes, the rest was fine.
6 bucks worth and some soldering.
Brushes were pretty worn down at 240k
T
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Follow Up By: Member - Snoopy2 (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:57
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:57
Hi everyone,
I'll bite the bullet and get the alternator
services, replace the bearings etc.
Thanks for all the input and great advice.
Regards,
Michael
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Reply By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 21:27
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 21:27
if you can do it yourself, take the parts or buy a second hand altenater as cheap onsurance. also get your starter motor checked out or carry a spare.
garranteed one will fail due to sand mud and dirt!
I prescribe to the old adage someone has already bought up, carry a spare.
or parts to fix!
cheers and ggod luck with your trip!!!
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Reply By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 22:04
Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 22:04
Our old girl is on her third one. Christmas Eve 08 on our southern trip and on our last trip last month it burnt out too. The old girl has had a hard life but I would think its easiest was the last two years. Has the usual twin battery, two engle fridges (note the out side temp on our last trip was freezing so the fridges wernt working that hard) Andersen to the camper. The last one we stopped at Narrabri for lunch. Could smell a burnt
orange sort of smell. Then we headed to Dubbo got only a couple of ks up the road and the lights came on on the dash. Holy hm, and every other word under the sun came out. Last time it happened we made it from
Echuca down the Great ocean road to
Robe where it was on its last legs.
Murray Bridge was it. Lucky they had one midday Christmas Eve. So we knew we would make it to Dubbo $500+ and we were on our way again.
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Reply By: Begaboy - Saturday, Oct 23, 2010 at 18:01
Saturday, Oct 23, 2010 at 18:01
I had an alternator last 2 months - when taking it back to the AUTO electrician , he looked at it and said - it has dirt and water in it thats the problem....
I look at the Car , i look at him , and ask - you do see a 4 wheel drive in front of you right ? not a soccer mums car .. a 4 wheel drive ??
wont tell you the rest of the conversation :)
to answer your question how long is a piece of string? ( and no the answer is NOT 2 times half its length )
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