How long do Alternators last?

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:38
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Hi everyone, I have a 100 series Landcruiser with the petrol 4.5ltr motor which is just over 10 years old and it now has 275,000 Klms on the clock. Everything is running well, including the clutch which is still original. Apart form normal services, everything is still original.

I have duel batteries installed, mainly to run the fridge, and I'm wondering how the bearings etc in the Alternator are holding up. Is there a "normal" life span where they need to be overhauled or is it a case of letting it run until it starts to play up. I'm asking because I'm planning a trip in about 6 weeks time from Sydney to Kangaroo Island via Broken Hill and returning via Lake Mungo. There will be some off road running but nothing really heavy going.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Michael
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:41

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:41
My old 80 with a 1fz-fe has 401,000km on the original alt and clutch but the clutch shudders a bit (alright a lot) nowdays.

It depends on how much dust / mud it has seen. I know of some that have let go at 20,000km and others that have outlived a vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Member - Snoopy2 (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:54

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:54
Thanks Dave,

I'm glad your 80 is still going strong. Sounds like there is lots of life left in the old girl yet.

Cheers,

Michael
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Reply By: Member - mazcan - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:00

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:00
hi snoopy 2
from my experiences with alternators and that sort of k's on the clock
i would advise you to have it serviced or at least put some new bearings in it if it still has full output
as your bearings imho are at the end of there life span and could fail any day once they seize you could destroy the drive belt/splus total the unit the bearings dont cost much if you can do the job yourself
before my last outback trip i replaced mine and and also replaced the bearings in
and the bearings on the idler tension pulleys that are on my mazda and found them to be on the way out ( i'm not familar withset up on lc100)
but murphy's law applys to all although they were still in a servicable state when i pulled them out there is nothing like having piece of mind these small things are a pain if they fail in isolated areas
and its such an important component
the risk is yours and how long you wish to push your luck
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Follow Up By: Member - Snoopy2 (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:04

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:04
Hi Mazcan,

Good advice. Replacing the bearings is probably a good idea. I'll also check the bearings in the tension pully as well. Should not cost too much.

Thanks and cheers,

Michael
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Follow Up By: Star Bug - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:54

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:54
As other have said..... Exposure to dirt, dust, water.....will see the early demise of an alternators bearings. Build up of oil/dirt/dust in the windings will cause overheating and premature failure. Over tensioned Vee belts used to be a bearing killer, but it not so much a problem now with auto tensioned polly V belts.

Change the bearings and any dust seals, check/replace brushes, clean any build up of dirt/dust/oil, tighten conections, check your belt system, and it should be OK.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:52

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 13:52
Its cheap insurance to remove it and have it checked.
I've not hever had bearing issues, but have had Landcruiser alternators fail from brushes wearing out and internal regulators failing. I carry brushes and regulator as spares.
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 14:37

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 14:37
Hi Snoopy2

Now admittedly I live in an area which is not vehicler friendl;y, and I drive a 4 cylinder 3 litre diesel Hilux, with 260,000 + km on the clock since I bought it in 2000 new.

I am on my fourth alternator, third starter motor, third radiator and I have lost count of how many belts and filters. The actual structural frame is now starting to show cracks, some I have migged up, but the old girl is getting ready for retirement.

The area where I am has no bitumen at all, and we range from sand, to soft dirst, to mud to extremely corrugated road, so I am proud of my Hilux and how it has done the journey over teh years.

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Follow Up By: Mrbrush - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 23:22

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 23:22
You probably wont believe this, But my old hilux 89` model 2.8d, bought it at 97,000kms in 94`.
Alternator light began flashing at around 400,000kms from memory and eventually stayed on. So it was obvious that the brushes were gone.
Replaced brushes with a new set and alternator is still good at 648,000 by the clock.
Engine reco`ed at 500,000kms.
Alternator was not touched.
2nd starter in 1998.
not including 15% increase for speedo due to larger tyres which should have my speedo clock at around 740,000kms by now.
YES it`s just a work truck.
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Friday, Oct 22, 2010 at 16:28

Friday, Oct 22, 2010 at 16:28
Hi MrBrush

No reason not to believe you my friend. I know my Hilkux gets heaps more punishment than the average 4x4, and that is just in daily driving.

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Reply By: al - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:11

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:11
hi snoopy 2
I have a 92 GQ patrol 4.2 diesel I have owned this vehicle since 94 it had 15000 k's on it when purchased,it spends about 10 months of the year in the bush towing a camper trailer and has done so for the last 12 years.CT is fitted with third battery car has dual batteries. I run two fridges constantly 24/7. and a lot of other electrical gear. Vehicle has done 400,000 k's and still has original alternator, but having said that I do carry a Spare. I'm one of the old school if ain't broke leave it a lone.
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Reply By: trainslux - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:50

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:50
Remove the belts, spin the alternator, if bearings are ok, then I would suggest that you just remove, and replace the brushes.
If its still making the correct amps and volts, and no bearing noise, thats all I would do.
With my hilux, I just replaced the brushes, the rest was fine.
6 bucks worth and some soldering.
Brushes were pretty worn down at 240k

T
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Follow Up By: Member - Snoopy2 (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:57

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:57
Hi everyone,

I'll bite the bullet and get the alternator services, replace the bearings etc.

Thanks for all the input and great advice.

Regards,

Michael
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Reply By: Member - KEITH W (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 19:33

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 19:33
hi snoopy2, should last a fair while, but then again i've had mine re-built twice in 12 months. bearing failure. lucky i have a nephew that has a auto electric business in redcliffe, qld.original mileage was 281k on the alternator.
keith
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Reply By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 21:27

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 21:27
if you can do it yourself, take the parts or buy a second hand altenater as cheap onsurance. also get your starter motor checked out or carry a spare.

garranteed one will fail due to sand mud and dirt!

I prescribe to the old adage someone has already bought up, carry a spare.

or parts to fix!

cheers and ggod luck with your trip!!!

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Reply By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 22:04

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 22:04
Our old girl is on her third one. Christmas Eve 08 on our southern trip and on our last trip last month it burnt out too. The old girl has had a hard life but I would think its easiest was the last two years. Has the usual twin battery, two engle fridges (note the out side temp on our last trip was freezing so the fridges wernt working that hard) Andersen to the camper. The last one we stopped at Narrabri for lunch. Could smell a burnt orange sort of smell. Then we headed to Dubbo got only a couple of ks up the road and the lights came on on the dash. Holy hm, and every other word under the sun came out. Last time it happened we made it from Echuca down the Great ocean road to Robe where it was on its last legs. Murray Bridge was it. Lucky they had one midday Christmas Eve. So we knew we would make it to Dubbo $500+ and we were on our way again.
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Reply By: Member - warren h (SA) - Friday, Oct 22, 2010 at 08:21

Friday, Oct 22, 2010 at 08:21
Hi Snoopy,

I had one pack up in a volvo once, what a pain. I now have a 80series and have a spare tucked away in the back drawers, it costs me $350 cheap insurance I thought.

All the best Warren.
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Reply By: Begaboy - Saturday, Oct 23, 2010 at 18:01

Saturday, Oct 23, 2010 at 18:01
I had an alternator last 2 months - when taking it back to the AUTO electrician , he looked at it and said - it has dirt and water in it thats the problem....

I look at the Car , i look at him , and ask - you do see a 4 wheel drive in front of you right ? not a soccer mums car .. a 4 wheel drive ??

wont tell you the rest of the conversation :)

to answer your question how long is a piece of string? ( and no the answer is NOT 2 times half its length )
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