fuel storage - sorry for rehash of an old topic

Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 12:36
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The family and I are embarking on a tour of oz in an old bus and I thought I'd jump in with the long list of questions I have with this one:

What are the hazards/issues with storing Petrol jerry's on the roof deck of the bus? I can't see where else I could store these and am worried how they will go being in the full sun. Should they be filled the whole way or with a bit of air space? Will the lids leak fuel onto the deck when splashing about on drives?

Thanks for any advice.
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Reply By: Member - mazcan - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 13:05

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 13:05
hi rosco
carrying fuel on any roof rack is just something i would never do
but others do it and thats your choice
if they leak down well basicly your driving in a mobile bomb
as far as filling any container you should definetly never put any more than the containers measured amount in it
as petroland or diesel expands in the heat and if you have filled it to the brim there is no expansion room and it will burst or blow the seal

having several jerrys on the roof rack also put a lot of weight high up and could make your vehicles stability a problem and also put extreme pressure on the roofrack frame work and anchorage points when braking or on corregations
that my honest opinion in respect to your question and you will no doubt get many varied opinions on this
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 13:09

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 13:09
hi rosco
if at all possible have a fuel tank fitted under the bus would be your your safest bet this would eliminate the fire risk factors and also the task of lifting jerrys up and down from the r/rack
cheers
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Reply By: Steve63 - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 13:22

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 13:22
Jerries are extra weight and drag. Unless you need them because of range I would not bother. If you are doing it to avoid expensive fill ups also not a good reason. By the tiime you factor in the price of the jerries and decreased fuel economy it won't really help that much and you are not supporting the people in the region you are visiting.

Jerries should be filled as per manufacturers specifications. Empty them asap to reduce roof weight. Leaking is a dependent on correct fill level and how good the jerries are. Petrol is very flamable and there is obviously some risk using jerries. You need to assess it based on your reasons for using them. There is a maximium amount that it is permissable to carry also. Not sure what it is as I use deisel.

Steve
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Reply By: Big_Fisho - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:11

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:11
fuel VAPOUR is very volitile and does go bang very easily but the vapour is lighter then air so it will float away and as long as u dont light up near it you should be right. does the bus have underfloor storage? Marlin boats have these turtle tanks i think they called and they just a big bladder that holds fuel/water and they work well. have a look on an agi sight for a 200L poly tank with hand pump even.
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 10:48

Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 10:48
Hi
I always thought fuel was heavier than air but lighter than water, if you have been unlucky enough to experience a flash fuel fire the flame appears to run across the ground.
Good luck.
I had a check today because of a local incident, and found I still have 11 detts and 6 sticks of powergel (stored separately of course.)
It might be safer to carry those than cans of petrol on the roof.
Good luck.
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Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 10:59

Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 10:59
Fuel vapour is heavier than air and will "pool" in a low spot.
This is why any fuel leak or spillage is dangerous in a boat. The vapour fills the bilge.

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Reply By: Rossco 09 - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:13

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:13
Well weight and drag on the roof is not too much of a concern on the bus (it's big and slow anyway). My main concern is just with the jerry's themselves sitting in the full sun. Should they be covered with something instead?
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:31

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:31
Always felt safest way is to carry inside the car if you have no extra tanks - this way the body protects against small acidents that could rupture a jerry on the rear.

Above assumes you have have good non leaking plastic jerries and its also wise to put a plastic garbage bag over each one and seal. If your like us the internal jerries are usually into the main tanks in the first day or two anyway.

Never on roof , to many of our 4wds have marginal stabilty without this trying to tip them.

P.S. Don't know yours but many buses have lond rear overhang and hence should have minimum weight past their axle line.
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Follow Up By: Rossco 09 - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:39

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:39
Good tip on the axle line, will keep that in mind.
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 11:33

Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 11:33
If you're going to use the roof, an Outboard tank could work well.

Jim.

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