Landrover dscovery 4x4 opinions on reliability
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What are thoughts on landrover discovery as tow vehicle and for reliability
Reply By: Nargun51 - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 16:46
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 16:46
What model, year, engine, transmission? Too many variables to answer
I had a Series I 300 Tdi auto and a Series II Td5 manual. No problems with either, towing a Jayco Swan. Brilliant long distance cruiser.
The TD5 I owned from new and did 190000 km with a grand total of $360 spent on it other than normal servicing and consumables.
What is more; they have a soul.
Join some of the LandRover forums for better information on specific models
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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 17:37
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 17:37
hi
my brother inlaw had a 300tdi series 1 manual he towed a jayco eagle with it and it cost him the earth nearly rebuilt the thing completely i kept telling him to get rid of it and now he has and realizes he should have taken my advice years ago would have made a good boat anchor at best
he now has a petrol 2006 prado auto and is very happy with the way it handles the van
some others have been luckier
cheers
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Reply By: Member - peter f (VIC) - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 16:58
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 16:58
hard to believe that landrover and reliability can be used in the same sentence
?????
mechpete
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Follow Up By: Axle - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:58
Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:58
Funny you should say that!, The only engine trouble i've ever had over the years from total failure to probmatic running has been from jap motors!!
Eg, I.ve never heard of a 3ootdi landrover motor actually blowing up , and if you strip one down you will find the quality of components second to none. theres a few things bolted on the outside that are a bit ordinary, but cheap to fix.
cheers Axle
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 17:56
Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 17:56
And one could say the same about nissan and toyota ,3lt grenades and 80 series bearings spring to mind !
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Reply By: dereki - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 19:09
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 19:09
My 2c
All cars break down every now and then. An important question is can it be fixed in or near where you will be travelling. eg. Dealer network, parts availability, certified mechanics with training on your vehicle etc.
IMHO you should check these things out too. No good having a breakdown and having to tow the car 600ks to the nearest capital city... or having to wait for 2 months for a part.
D
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 21:10
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 21:10
I agree with all your comments.
Using the same justification why would anybody buy the newest Toyota landcruiser either.
There are no dealers in the bush but the whitegoods car maker has a few more REGIONAL dealers/agents.
You still have to wait for parts though.
Disco
(who despite having a few annoying times with his Disco wouldn't swap it for a Landcruiser anyway.)
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Reply By: Member - Tom V (WA) - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 20:28
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 20:28
Hi Dennis
not sure which discovery model u are looking @.
ignore the knockers, i traded my D4D prado in on the last D3 TDv6
& it's a great vehicle as my every day driver & as a tourer.
have not had a problem, although I have only done 45,000km
in a year.
good luck Tom
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Follow Up By: Member - Tom V (WA) - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 20:32
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 20:32
Dennis
forgot to add, it's a great tow vehicle for our Jayco expanda outback.
dare I say, better that the prado. we did 9500km in our last trip towing the van.
cheers Tom
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Reply By: Occawen - Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 22:14
Friday, Nov 05, 2010 at 22:14
I towed a 25 Ft caravan 20,000
miles in the US with a 2001 Disco II. It was extreemly impresive offroad using the ABS to put power to slipping
wheels. Also depending on the model you can do a mod to get manual center diff lock. Lots of problems with availability of parts and everyone Disco owner I talked to had problems with the '3 amigos' which is basically the brake modulator or speed sensors in the
wheels. I got frustrated with needing to pay $150 every time a code came up to get it read at a dealer / mechanic so I bought my own computer for US$600 called Hawkeye. AWSOME because it saved me a few times picking up faults before more damage was done. I sold it all returned to Australia and gave the computer to my dad who has a Disco 3.
Bottom line, I believe they are have an awsome capabilitty, very comfortable, however you need a computer reader (like Hawkeye) and parts can be an issue.
Occa
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Reply By: aka - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 08:22
Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 08:22
See if you can find the 2 blokes left in
Camooweal they were trying to get somebody to take the cars to
Alice Springs as that is the nearest dealer they both had caravans one had big problems they wernt impressed .It was a couple of months ago they came from
Adelaide
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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 11:39
Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 11:39
you mean two Landrovers broke down at the same place/same time?
here we go.........storytime
have you heard about the Nissan grenades and Toyota recalls?
Early Discoverys had teething problems but since BMW and subsequently, Ford took over the QC, reliebility has been less of a problem than the above mentioned but don't let that spoil a good old myth
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Follow Up By: aka - Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 08:56
Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 08:56
One shockers had collapsed the other one had bad noises in his diff,s I am not saying about the break down just the distance they had to go to get fixed and the contractor in
Camooweal did not want to go that far
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Reply By: The Landy - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 12:06
Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 12:06
I usually stay away from these threads as they tend to degenerate into a ‘Landy’ kicking contest, so if you are looking for sensible advice on Landrover’s head to the Australian Landrover site. There is plenty of good information contained there, warts and all.
But as a general comment; whatever vehicle you choose to drive make sure you have a good understanding of any faults or short-comings, and that applies to all makes of vehicles, and monitor these potential problems and ensure your vehicle is
well prepared before any major trip. Without intending to be pointed, just take a look at the exploding Nissan engines as an example.
I think you’ll find if you apply that process to any vehicle it will go a long way to ensuring relatively trouble free travel and reliability.
As for Landrover’s I have two Defenders, one a TDi300 and the other a TDi200. The twin cab TDi300 has been completely overhauled for long-range remote travel and I have never had any issues in terms of reliability. In fact one of the reasons I have chosen this vehicle is because of its reliability and utility…..
In terms of ‘modern’ day vehicles with all the computer technology, I think you will find that most are very reliable, but don’t kid yourself that if you ever have a problem that the local mechanic in
Camooweal or the back of
Bourke will be able to fix/work on it, more than likely they won’t be able to regardless of the brand/badge on the front of the vehicle.
Good luck with your choice…….
Cheer, The Landy
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Follow Up By: Axle - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 12:24
Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 12:24
Sensible reply as usual The Landy, What Iv'e learnt in the last couple of years with a modern computerised controlled engine, is that the DEALERS!! are struggling to diagnose and fix problems that can happenwith the modern vehicle!!, As you say Forget about getting it fixed in even a semi remote area, with out the gear and knowledge to use it, country workshops are not in the same world, not their fault, its just how things have gone over time
Cheers Axle
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Follow Up By: cycadcenter - Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 14:23
Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 14:23
Hi Landy,
Do you have the original seats in your 130 or have you upgraded?
Thanks
Bruce
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 15:13
Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 15:13
Hi Bruce
Original seats recovered.
Cheers, The Landy
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Reply By: Andrea11 - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 12:58
Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 12:58
Hi there Dennis and Liz,
We have a Disco 97 3.9l v8 that tows our 19ft van. We did rebuild the motor in 2008. Our fuel economy pulling the van is 22litres per 100k. We also have LPG as a sub tank kinda thing. With the petrol engines you won't get the fuel economy like you do out of the TD5's but then again there isn't the same frequency in servicing either. When on the road we just take our time we are in no rush. I love the Discovery it is true they do have a heart as someone above stated. But just like any make of 4wd once you get to know your vehicle then you know it's quirks. We haven't had a problem since the rebuild and the car goes like a dream. My husband says he would not hesitate taking it into remote parts of the country and we infact took it across the
Savannah way with out a hitch.....So from our point of view even after the rebuild we would go Landrover again......
Best of Luck
Andrea
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Reply By: anglepole - Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 09:27
Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 09:27
I am one of those people who would love to own a Disco.
Last year the Australian Auto Clubs (in my case the RAA), did a comparison of various 4X4s. The Disco scored 8-9 out of 10 for most things.
However for maintenance costs and resale value it scored only around 2-3. That was enough to put me off.
I guess horses for courses.
Good luck for your purchase.
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 13:40
Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 13:40
Perhaps the poor resale issue represents an opportunity for astute buyers; buy one that is 1-3 years old. If resale is that poor sounds like you might get a bargain, especially as it is recognised that they perform
well........
Cheers, The Landy
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Follow Up By: cycadcenter - Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 16:22
Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 16:22
Talking about resale value.............
Defenders over here in the USA nearly have a cult following. You quite often see 1995 model 110 & 130's selling upwards of $35,000 which is about what they sold for new.
A disco the same age you would be really battling to get $10,000.
All petrol as no Diesels were sold here to my knowledge.
Bruce
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:57
Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:57
Hi Dennis
I'm afraid our interaction with them (mostly series 2) has all been very negative of our 2 immediate friends with them - one went to a Patrol and the other went to a range rover (on gas think 2002). We have only had to tow it twice.
I won't catalogue the series of issues , but beyond them when we considered the (series 3) it did go really
well , looked good on paper , and towed quite
well. Noise was lower than expected also.
Reliability , lack of dealers etc were a big issue in our summation but beyond that we have have some experience with the resolving of there issues and we have found that there is very little you can do to them without dealer interface , under the bonnet is filled with stuff and hard to work on.
We have seen there traction control system used in anger and it was (series 3 only) pretty good but in the end limited wheel travel is an issue , and I couldn't come at the exhaust under the fixed
suspension member.
We see a lot smoking and its not a good look.
I'm pretty confident they do tow
well and if maintence issues are better in your area then they could be considered.
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