Framed Route Map - Previous Trips

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:17
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Hi guys
I'm trying to get hold of a map of Oz (maybe 1200 x 1200) and get the routes from a few previous treks printed on to it. Not dissimlar to the map that comes up when you put in a trip on whereis.com except it would go around the entire country with very specific tracks/roads.

I have chased up a few map shops who dont seem to be interested or know what I am talking about. I thought surely that other people have done this before.

Has anyone had this type of thing done before? Ideally I would have 2 coloured routes for the 2 "laps" which took slightly differant treks.
Any help would be appreciated.
Tim
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Reply By: SDG - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 11:03

Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 11:03
Do you want to draw the route yourself with a pen/texta, or have it printed on by the map people?
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Follow Up By: Tim - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 15:54

Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 15:54
The plan is that it will be hung in the "pool room" so I would want professional quality with a printer.
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Reply By: Patrol22 - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 11:21

Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 11:21
I bought a 1.2x1.2 Hema map that had been laminated. At the end of a trip I load the gps file into Oziexplorer on my desktop 'puter and then remark the track on the laminate of the map. Started out using a different colour for each year but quickly ran out of colours:-).
I bought the map at a camping store in Ballina.....can't remember the name of it but was not too far from a Kentucky Fried outlet in a large shopping centre from memory.
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 20:30

Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 20:30
I'm guessing that would be the one near Ballina fair op Kmart, Kerr Street on the H'way. Ballina Recreation Mart.


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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 13:55

Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 13:55
Tim,

We use a laminated map about that size from Australian Geographic. Hema also have a laminated one of similar size. We manually draw in each trip using a fine point texta or CD marker. As suggested above, although you can use different colours for each trip, you run out of suitable colours pretty quickly!

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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 13:59

Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 13:59
I have a map about that size from Australian Geo.

You can buy it either laminated or un-laminated.

I mounted my laminated map on a board and framed it using old fence palings. I have a panel on either side of the map for pinning up photos and because the frame is solid timber I can mount souvenirs (bits that broke off the car, salt crystals from Lake Eyre etc.) of our trips around the frame.

The down side is that the roads are marked in red. My map is now nearly 20 years old and most of the red ink has faded making it difficult to see exactly where roads and tracks are.

Duncs
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Reply By: Member - Michael P (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 11:35

Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 11:35
Tim,
Ezy Map have a Australian High Lights Map, available at a lot of Information centres as you travel, ---- ezymap@bigpond.com---- I think they are SA based.
Mike.
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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 20:32

Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 20:32
Interesting - we've been aware of the desire for this for some time, and we know we (the ExplorOz system) could actually handle the creation and output (finished file) of the route and the map (topo 250K) using iMapPlot, however to print it, a large format printer is required. Our company doesn't own one, so we can't offer this service to you, but we could make the map files available to you if you were able to have it printed. When I say YOU, I mean collective YOU - our global audience. I guess, if we just made the file downloadable then all YOU have to do is take the file to a printer. I haven't looked at what it would cost to outsource the printing. The problem is then if we organise the printing, then you have to pay the cost of postage for us to send it to you. Better to delivery you the electronic file and you sort out the printing?????
If you have any ideas on how we can help YOU, let us know.

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Follow Up By: Tim - Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:32

Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:32
Hi Michelle
You could be onto a winner here. The big issue with everyones response is that they all suggest drawing a line on the map myself. That is what I have already done in my hema book with a highlighter and it looks fine in there but for a wall mounted map in my home I would want something which looks more proffesional.

I looked at this a few months ago and the only place I found who were half interested was a company in SA. They were going to charge me per hour for the services of a pro cartoonist or drawer or similar who was going to sit down with a texta and draw the routes on. No doubt it would probably turn out ok however old mate who may have never stepped out of SA is going to take forever to draw and no doubt it would be big $$$$$

I had a very quick look at printing costs and to print a file on A1 is about $65. I guess it depends on how far you want to go whether you just sell the files or come to an arrangement with a printer and sell the printed versions or even go the whole way and get them framed as well? The frames is probably where I would draw the line and I think a printed map in a tube would be what I would be happy to purchase through the net and then get a frame sorted out myself to suit the room etc.

From a consumers point of view, if you guys sort the printing out then firstly I can see a photo of a demo online and then I don't have to worry about going through the process is finding a specific printer etc etc. It also sets a base for the standard and takes the worry or "risk factor" element out of the equation. We all know the EO team and have no issues but I'm not so sure about some random guy on the net who has a big printer. I guess if you found a printer and he was happy to be the "preffered printer" then that would ensure the quality of the end product is consistant.

Anyway, I think it is a fantastic idea and opportunity. I'm still looking for this exact idea for a Christmas present. If you want to give it a test run I would keen to give it a crack.
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Tim

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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:56

Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:56
Tim,
Your feedback on this idea is really useful thanks. Xmas this year however, will not be feasible sorry. Before launching into this project we need to look at a wider response/feedback to gauge how popular your idea is, and importantly, we need to allocate/schedule a software modification into the iMapPlot system. It would be a Member feature, as it will rely on you the Member entering your treks as GPS file that you upload (ie. as User Treks) to your profile so that it can be mapped and drawn by the iMapPlot system. We can probably customise it so that any special places you visited/campsites etc could also be shown using icons (but this would rely on tagging an existing one from Places, or uploading a new one if it doesn't exist in the database). There is quite a bit of fine-tuning, but we agree it would be a unique service offering and one that many of us have dreamed about solving.

It would appear that costs would be: Members only feature, then free to download the file that is formated for a fixed large-format printing size. Optional extra to buy the print/delivery service. From first assumptions, it looks like we'd need to charge around $120-130 to get the finished product to your door, ready to frame. We would need some widespread feedback about this ballpark figure. No point to make the service available, if people think that's too much to pay for example.

Any other comments/feeback on this concept are most welcome - using this post.

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 19:50

Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 19:50
Michelle,

The technology that EO can bring to bear on a project like this is pretty amazing, and I'm sure the quality of the end result would be excellent. As I see it though, the weakness is that it must be an end result. How do you add next year's trip? And the year after..... ? What about the pre-gps trips for which there are no plot files? Texta as at present?

Where there is an end point, for example an overseas visitor leaves after their trip and never expects to return, then I can foresee demand for a well produced momento. For most of us though, we will (hopefully!) want to add to our map over the years. It is a "living" and evolving thing. Would I spend over $100 on a square metre of personalised map that I'll then draw on with texta? No, not when I can buy a non-personalised one for a third of that.

Sorry to appear unsupportive, but realistically I don't think this venture would have much support from EO travellers who see their travels as ongoing.

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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 20:19

Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 20:19
OH John - easy just cough up for the map each year after your trip or every couple of years - lol.

No really good point and one to consider however let me cover a few points:
Older data is a consideration however I have almost solved this with our driving direction system and at the moment am working on the ability for you to click on the map and have it auto route between clicks so you can TEXTA the map so to speak with the mouse and the mapping engine will auto route along the road lines. This feature is being add to the MyMap system as part of the building of your online map coupled with data upload to load up the recorded data you have saved. So the online version of your MyMap will be current and up datable at any time including current tracking etc. This will also link your place updates and blogs into a single map. You can have this map then linked and shown in your blog, other websites etc. So the only question is really do you want one on the wall, if yes then every year or two you could have one printed off for the wall and mount it in your chosen frame.

I am also working on the ability for you to print in standard formats such as A3 & A4 it is just the larger format stuff that needs to be produced externally.

This post started the talk about the output and this is something that we have talked about in the office before and we knew it would be possible. The online MyMap function was something that I have been working towards for several years (technology slowed me down) and I believe I am very close now, so this post was timely however whether the printing is looked at or not will not effect the MyMap project, it is just an extension. So the ability to do it will be installed regardless.

Thanks for the thoughts
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2010 at 14:44

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2010 at 14:44
David,

WOW!! That's very impressive stuff! I haven't got my head wrapped around MyMap yet, so please excuse ignorance. I can certainly see scope for printing at A3 or A4 to complement printed trip reports, but at A1 it gets pretty expensive.

Look forward to hearing more of this project.

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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2010 at 14:56

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2010 at 14:56
It will be really good once it is all up and running - I had a thought last night about this printing thing and as technology is changing so fast why not just plug the image file into your massive wall mounted TV system and have it in a slide show with images from your trips - it will not be long before this is in every house anyway so I may as well get in early.

I will get back to MyMap later today and try to get the click driving directions system running.
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Follow Up By: Tim - Tuesday, Nov 09, 2010 at 23:44

Tuesday, Nov 09, 2010 at 23:44
I hear what you guys are saying about an "end" result when this is very much going to be a live document.
No doubt every persons situation is differant. I am pre marriage and had the opportunity to save annual leave and do two 8 and 10 week trips. For the time being I won't be doing any long trips as I can see annual leave being used for other things. Other people, if I can use the term "grey nomads" are constantly travelling all year round. Of course you also have the people who do one off trips such as overseas travellers.
Speaking for myself, I would have no hesitation in spending a few hundred dollars and get something up on the wall. No doubt it will change in the future and it something that maybe could get changed every few years.
Even if you are still on the road it gives you something to reflect on maybe?
Anyway, I will assist with your market research and see what I can find. Fingers crossed I will have something to wrap up before Christmas!
Tim
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Reply By: Member - Jo Q (NSW) - Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 15:15

Monday, Nov 08, 2010 at 15:15
Hi Tim,

I was also looking at putting together a map of Australia to plot our trips on - primarily so my 8 year old daughter could get an understanding of just how big our country actually is! & how far we have travelled from home on many trips.

Unlike many of you on here, we are just starting our travels, hopefully in 20 years time the map will be a lot fuller than it looks now! The garage of my house is basically a bar area with a roller shutter at one end. The pictures below show the finished result, but I covered the roller shutter in MDF board, painted it, then beamed an overhead projector at it with a map of Australia on it's glass. I now draw in each trip route with a different coloured texta. The nights we spent are put on with corresponding coloured drawing pins & place names. As you can see Tassie is seperate as we have done 2 (soon to be 3) trips down there and to scale the State would have been just too small.

Only problem is if I move I can't take it with me! Can always be re-done! I know it wasn't what you had in mind, but it may appeal to other readers?

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