Suggestion for photograph area

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Hi all

Has anyone thought about asking the ExploreOz team to establish an area within this site for photographs.

There are some sensational photographs in this site of flowers, birds, sceneryand all sorts of wonderful things, but one has to go searching to find these.

If there was one area where people could upload sensational photos, whether they be sunsets or whatever, with the exact location of the photo identified, that would allow all to know wher various sites, flora and fauna could be found.

I could see no reason why the ExploreOz team could not eventually publish a hard copy book with such details, taken from this site, and retail it to allow people to have such information at hand for travellers.

Just a thought I had.

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 04:51

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 04:51
Have you had a look at the PLACES section , or the BLOGS section , you'll find 1000's of photo's.
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 21:59

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 21:59
Spot on Doug...in fact, I had a good look at your Chain of Ponds pics. Awesome stuff.
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Reply By: Mick O - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 07:01

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 07:01
Marc,

as per the yearly EO photocomp, the blog facility gives you the opportunity for photos and relevant info. The blogs can be searched by specific catagory such as "Wildlife" or "Sunsets". A very good tool. I have over 2000 photos loaded to the site.

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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 01:44

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 01:44
Hi Mick

Sorry for not responding before, got a bit busy. I do fully understand what you are saying, but sometimes searching through the blogs is extremely time consuming, and you cannot seem to find the photo that you previously saw

I guess I am just profferring a suggestion that would make things heaps easier, and be friendly for people who want a rough idea where they could locate certain flora, fauna or whatever.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 07:57

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 07:57
Hi Marc
These were my exact words to Damian when he used to work for David and Michelle. Sure it is OK to say just look up places to find these photos, BUT if you do not know where the place is, then where do you start to look.

Damian also stated that at that time there was an issue with the amount on space that it would take up on their server.

I think that it would be great to have a members only photo gallery and from that gallery it could be further divided into sub galleries, eg wildlife, wild flowers, Sunsets, National Parks, Old Buildings, etc and there then could be direct links to the place or area where the photos were taken.

You have again planted the seed and if enough seeds are planted, who knows that something may get off of the ground one day.


All the best and keep dry up your way Marc and don't get bogged.

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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 01:48

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 01:48
Hi Stephen

I have a horrid feeling that we are not going to keep that dry this year. I made the comment in a thread sometime ago about the insect activity around here, now the weather people have stated that we are no longer in the "el nino" weather stream, but have changed to "la nina". The last time that happened we got the tail end of Cyclone Rosita, and we were completely rained in for 6 weeks.

The army dropped supplies off to us with a Caribou aircraft that time, as there was no way in or out, and no way of getting supplies for 100+ people. We do hope it won't be that bad again, but we are getting for a bad wet.

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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:19

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:19
You guys must know what I am working on and raise these posts at exactly the right time. If you notice in Places now you will see a new gallery system for all of the images, this is also partly rolled out in blogs. I am in the process of moving all our system images into the new gallery system and we will be able to easily implement these types of features into this gallery.

At the moment it has been targeted to the places system and blogs but I like the comment about tagging images to bird, tree or other tags that would allow the images to sorted into areas. I will think some more about this and see what I can implement.

The new gallery system also supports ratings and this has been installed in the places system. I hope to have more of the gallery roll-out done in the next few weeks and will post progress via the newsletters as it is developed however at the moment places is finished and a good example can be seen here: Places Ayres Rock.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:21

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:21
Of course the initial idea is to link the galleries to your member profiles so all you photos regardless of where they are loaded are all available in your My Profile page but I have to migrate all images to the new system first and this involves around 40,000 image files so does take some time to get it all updated.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 13:17

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 13:17
Hi David and Michelle
That is good to see that this is happening. I should have also made this point in my reply, but here it is anyway.

You have mentioned in the past that sometime various people and departments approach you to buy the photos that you have. In the system that I mentioned above it would make your intenting clients easier to see and find photos in labelled galleries, rather than going to countless links and in return you could hopefully sell more photos.

Just my thoughts.

Keep up your most dedicated work.

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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 14:16

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 14:16
Hi David,

This all sounds great.
Hope this isnt off topic but I will ask anyway...

Would you working on it be the reason why I can't open or edit a couple of my blogs any more??? I have been wanting to add photos to a blog I started during the winter months this year and I keep getting a system message telling me it cant find the specified blog item and that I have been returned to the blog index. Very frustrating when I dont even have a backup copy of the text on my laptop for a change.


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Follow Up By: Mick O - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 15:35

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 15:35
Heather, I’ve encountered this problem as well. The blog is still most probably there it’s just that the old or original address has changed somewhat. I presume that the blogs were migrated to a new part of the system. I found the problem only occurs on some occasions that I tried to access the blog from the recently edited pane at the top right of the forum page. If I then went to my members blog list and located the blog that way, it opened and I could edit it as I wanted to. Hope this helps

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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 16:53

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 16:53
thanks Mick but it doesnt work from my members blog list either and is only for specific blogs. I have contacted the ExplorOz team and Michelle is looking into it for me.

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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 01:49

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 01:49
Hi Dave and Michelle

No, didn't know nothing about what you were doing, but extremely appreciative of what you are doing.

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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 14:31

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 14:31
Heather,
The blogs that had a problem had a space character in the front of them, I have corrected the issue internally so that in future it should not happen and I have removed the space from the front of the blogs that had this. So now they open correctly - if you have problems like this in the future please simply use the Feedback system and we will resolve it for you.
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 21:59

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 21:59
Hi David,
thank you all is working well again now.

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Reply By: Flynnie - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 21:38

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 21:38
Marc

Fully support having the photographs a bit easier to access.

One time I plodded all the way back through the old blogs and found heaps of great photos and info. It was a bit cumbersome but can be done.

There could be an issue with some scenery photographs if we get too much into GPS tagging everything.

When out on the CSR this year with my travel mate, Roger, we had a lot of time on our hands and got to talking about the technology of presenting photographs in ordered ways. I was rather unconvinced. Not in the technology or the result that might be achieved, more with "why?" His vision was (and I am understating it somewhat) of organised clusters of photographs so you could do a virtual tour of the country on the internet seeing what features were at each location by the photographs. Almost a Google Earth Streetview on a landscape scale.

I can see advantages in that. But I am not motivated to contribute photographs in that organised a manner. I have done four large blogs and uploaded about 400 photographs. By and large the photographs are selected to convey a personal story. In fact the first blog was originally presented only as photos but I succumbed to requests to add some text. My photographs will never be presented like this - "at GPS coordinate 123 xyz this scenery can be seen". In fact there are some photographs I would never have posted with exact GPS coordinates because of concerns of vandalism should exact location of some things become known. We are living in an age where we can pinpoint sticks and rocks. I just don't want my photographs doing that. For many of the photographs it is enough that they were taken out there somewhere.

I think I might be in the minority on this.

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Follow Up By: zook - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 23:01

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 23:01
Flynnie

This is a bit off topic, but I was just wondering how you find the plastic bullbar? have you had any animal strikes? If so, how did it hold up? I've always had steel bars, and am curious about how protective the plastic bar is???

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Follow Up By: Flynnie - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 23:23

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 23:23
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Yes way off topic. I do not want to go into it here. Suffice to say very happy. Have a read of my profile. I have just opened it up to all visitors. I will add some more in next few minutes on roo bar. If you want to ask something specific post a comment on one of my blogs. I can tidy it up later. I DO NOT want to create yet another thread on Smartbars. But thanks for the question.

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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 23:35

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 23:35
Hi Flynnie

I am in agreeance with you, exact positioning would also take the enjoyment for a lot of people from exploring to find what they want, but a general commentary of something, ie, "in the area of Lake Gregory", would certainly get the interest of some sparked, and it would be good enough a description to allow someone to want to go to an area to see what they are looking for.

Pinpointing with GPS would takle too much fun out of Exploring this beautiful country, but allowing others to know a basic area would be worthwhile. That is just my opinion anyway.

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Follow Up By: Flynnie - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 23:58

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 23:58
Marc

There are cameras now that can do that automatically and do not cost much. GPS built in. Others make use of an optional attachment.

It is now easy to locate the trees, sticks and rocks pretty exactly. But do we want or need to. I agree with you "in the area of Lake Gregory" is about right for a description and not some exact GPS coordinate.

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:19

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:19
Flynnie,

I'm another one who would be reluctant to put GPS co-ordinates on photos - even if I had the time to do so. Couple of reasons:

I have many photos of flowers and vegetation in general and some of plants that are quite special. If such plants were located too accurately there is a real risk of people either picking the flowers or digging the whole plant up. It only takes one idiot to do the wrong thing and the rest of us (and the flora) suffer the consequences.

Also I think there is nothing quite like coming on a stunning view quite unexpectedly, never having seen it or heard of it before, and being able to take your own photos of it. All the heavily photographed places (like Uluru, Bungles, Wineglass Bay, Cradle Mtn) just dont quite have the WOW factor when you first see them - simply because what you see for real is what you have seen reproduced many times before. (I hasten to add that after spending time at these places there is plenty of wow factor left!). Spectacular places that are unfamiliar really pack an emotional punch, I think because you have the real satisfaction of having made your own personal discovery.

Maybe its just me... but locating things to a general vicinity as we do in our blogs is fine but I wouldn't like to pinpoint things too much.

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