Which TV for a van

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Have ordered a new Paramount Duet and take delivery at the end of the month and was wondering what sort of TV to buy, 12 volt or 240.
The new LED 22" is available from round $360 to $550 in both 12 and 240 but was worried about relaibility when travelling.
Also have a Wineguard antenna fitted to the roof but do I need a booster (for places like Tathra and the east coast?)

Any suggestions please.

Cheers Rod
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Reply By: Member - Niss42 - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 16:46

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 16:46
Rod,
Most 12v TV's come with both a 12v power cord and a 240v (brick) cord, so you can use the TV in the van on 12v or at home on 240v.
I am sure the Winguard has an amp built in.

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Follow Up By: Member - Rodney B- Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 16:48

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 16:48
Thanks Barry will check the specs on the Wineguard.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:36

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:36
I have found you mostly have to order the 12 V cord as an accessory. Check when ordering and add to the order if necessary.



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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:59

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:59
Hi rod. I have a late Jayco with a 22" Sphere 12v TV, a Wineguard antenna and a booster for it. The booster is separate inside the van and is powered by 12v. The TV is 12v only but comes with a 240v transformer/cable that plugs into the 12v point on the TV.The booster needs to be operating and with it we had great reception last month all the way From Victor Harbour, Murray Bridge,Mildura,Wagga, Canberra and then to home (Shellharbour) The TV has a DVD player and you can record to an external hard drive. I believe a brand called Kogan are also very good. Hope that helps. Bob

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Reply By: Member - Ian F (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 21:00

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 21:00
Hi Rod,
Check out the Kogan site.
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Reply By: The Yeti - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 22:36

Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 22:36
I bought a Kogan with DVD built in, very happy with service and TV and the price.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:56

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:56
With a Winegard you wont get TV in places that have vertical polarity.

Erldunda and other small places come to mind.

There is a mod for them but we couldnt be bothered climbing up to do it all the time and bought a satellite setup.

Much easier.


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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:39

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:39
That's a furphy, The signal is just 5 - 6 dB lower if you don't do the switch. You only need to do that at the fringe of the reception area.



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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:49

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:49
We Could NOT get reception with a Winegard in ANY place that had vertical polarity so if its a furphy tell me how to get it.

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 17:12

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 17:12
I don't know your situation and can not give an opinion without having checked your van. Most antennas have a little reduced pick up when working on the wrong polarisation. You possibly have a fault in your van if those around you were getting a good signal and you were getting nothing (unless they had something like the explorer or the DX Active Zone.) There are Winegard models without the amplifier, have you got one of those?

I have worked in the radio frequency planning area and am fully aware of the consequences of cross polar discrimination. I am thoroughly sick of having to correct those who erroneously claim that antennas will not pick up signals of the wrong polarity. Please stop doing it and check out your own installation. If you are going to come back and argue the toss, maybe you can give a short dissertation on cross polar discrimination ratios and typical values for different antennas.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 17:48

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 17:48
I had a perfectly working Winegard when at Erldunda and other places up the centre. It has the amp in the socket in the wall and picked up horizontal channels perfectly everywhere.
In fact at Lane Cove we had to drop it down because it was getting too much signal.
We thought we had a problem till the guy parked next door told us what to do.

We now have a new van which did have a probem when we got it and it has been fixed and works Ok on horizontal but not on vertical.
There was a thread on here that suggested pullin a pin out of one of the legs to drop the antenna to a vertical position would enable it to work.

Others in the park at Erldunda also couldnt get reception and the only one who could had a happy wanderer that could be changed to vertical

If it as you say why do places have vertical and not just alter the frequencies or whatever.
I am not an expert but am talking from actual experience of trying for several hours to get a signal.

IF you know what to do share it with us cos Im sure a lot would benefit from the knowledge.


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Reply By: franklKTM450 - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:43

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:43
hi, i dont mean to hijack this thread.. but we are picking up a swan on Satd. I have a Kogan lcd with inbuilt dvd. It doesnt get used anymore at home and was thinking of putting it in the van. you talk about 12v and 240v. We dont have 12v battery in the van. Will 240v appliances work inside the van?
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:41

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:41
They will when you are camped on power. You will probably need to have an outside antenna unless you are in excellent signal area.


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Reply By: Member - Rodney B- Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 13:32

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 13:32
Easy answer, Yes
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Reply By: Member - Rodney B- Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 13:39

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 13:39
Thanks for all the answers and we will order the Kogan 22" HD next week. According to the specs the Wineguard has a built in amp so I will suck it and see before buying an additional booster.

Good price on the Kogan $319 + $22 delivery. Will buy the one without the DVD as I thought the less complicated the more reliable? We can use our laptop as a DVD player through the screen or better yet use the USB input on the TV for downloaded movies.

Once again thanks for the replies.
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Follow Up By: dublediff - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:11

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:11
Rod, there is a signal booster called a wingman, for your wineguard. very neat, just clips onto the antenna and folds down with it. it accesses all (or most) of the digital channels. costs about 70.00 and you can buy them on line. I haven't tried mine yet, new van arrives next week...
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:50

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:50
Using an additional booster is usually of little help. The amplifier in your Winegard will amplify the incomming noise as well as any little signal that may be there. An additional amplifier will just amplify the noise, it will not improve the signal to noise ratio. Or in other words, you are very unlikely to get any benefit from a second amplifier. You will get better value spending your money on books for when you are out of TV range.

Regarding the Wingman - There are two models, the RV-WING and the NZ-WING (it was developed in NZ.) The RV-WING will only benefit you up to CH 52. The NZ-WING covers all the UHF band. Don't get caught purchasing the wrong model. Most caravan shops don't know of the NZ model. Camec supply them.


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Follow Up By: Member - Rodney B- Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 18:06

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 18:06
So Peter is the NZ Wing the one to purchase if I need it?
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 19:10

Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 19:10
Rod - yes


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Follow Up By: ozjohn0 - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:41

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:41
Kogan call friday's 'Frugal Friday"
Best to monitor the site for a few days and see if there is any price fluctualtion.
Best prices are usually on Friday. Oz Parks Club members can also put in a code (Available from Oz Parks office) at the checkout and receive a further 5% discount. Hope mentioning Kogan & Oz Parks doesn't get this post chopped deleted.
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