Leaving Note's
Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 17:15
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Member - Andrew C (WA)
Hi Guy's
Just wondering what your thoughts are with regard to leaving notes in your vehicle that are visible through the windscreen.
For example: Time Left 11:00 two adults heading out on walk trail A caring 4 litres of
water monitoring UHF ch 5 expect to be back approx 15:00.
Yes I agree that for your own personal safety its the most sensible thing to do, but with all the rat bag's around these days are you leaving an invitation for your vehicle to be ransacked knowing pretty much that you wont be back for at least 3 hours
Reply By: Member - Paul F (INT) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 17:39
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 17:39
Andrew;
Don't know about anyone else but I think you may have answered you own question
We cannot presume that there are fellow travellers who would not take that type of note as an open invitation to burgle/vandalise your vehicle.
It's a bit like leaving your wallet on the dash at the local shopping centre.
Paul
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Reply By: Harry and Ann (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 17:39
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 17:39
Hi Andrew, you sort of answered you own question.
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Reply By: ob - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:07
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:07
Sorry Andrew but for what it is worth I think that leaving such a note is like not having your mail collected from your letterbox when you are away for a while
ob
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Reply By: The Landy - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:25
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:25
Andrew
Putting the ‘ratbag’ burglar issue aside....
The question is what are you expecting from the other 99% of the
population? Do you anticipate they will contact the authorities if you don’t re-appear in the designated time? If it is a safety issue and you are looking for some kind of search and rescue response (SAR) if you don’t re-appear then you need to be specific about that in your note. The problem with the approach you suggest is you are asking someone who is totally unknown to you, and vice-versa to make some sort of determination of what action is required – it sounds like an approach that could be very ‘hit and miss’ and may not yield the response you are looking for, especially if you are relying on a random passer-by...
You need to control what actions you require to be undertaken should you have the requirement for external intervention and ensure a specific person or organisation takes responsibility for your requirements. You would be far better taking a device (Spot Messenger, EPIRB, Sat-phone to name a couple) that can activated or used and make quite clear to the appropriate authorities where you are, what might be the nature of your predicament, and what action you expect.
Carry a device for safety, if that is what you need, and if you want to leave a note, you could just say your rot-weiler is in the bushes watching the car.....covers all potential bases!
Cheers, The Landy
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Reply By: Member - Keith C (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:28
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:28
Andrew,I totally disagree,hand held uhf,at best 2km? you need an epirb if your'e that worried about your safety.you can cover a lot of ground in a couple of hours,
water is a must.
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:34
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:34
The chances of a ratbag smashing his way through your vehicle window are far greater than the chances of you getting injured or lost on your walk.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:06
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:06
Hi Andrew
If you are somewhere rather remote, you are only likely to have trustworthy people see your note, however in these circumstances, no-one is likely to see your note until search parties a couple of weeks later when your family back home starts panicking.
If there are others around, it may be a popular place where the occasional unscrupulous person takes advantage of parked cars. However if there are others doing the walk, it might be worth saying to someone leaving at much the same time "I'll watch and make sure you come back and can you do the same for me?"
If the trek is in a national
park, there may be the option to register with the
ranger.
Some walks, and the
Wineglass Bay walk in Tasmania is one, there is a registration book at the start of the walk to fill in as you leave and mark off when you come back. A good idea, but not so good if people forget to mark off their return.
Motherhen
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:40
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:40
Hi Andrew
A few months ago I was driving in to
Halls Creek. Near Wolfe
Creek there was a vehicle on the side of the road, with a note on the windscreen informing one and all that they had gone to
Halls Creek at a certain time to get some part for repairs.
5 1/2 hours later I saw the same vehicle, without tyres, seats, roof rack and even the gearbox was gone. Such a note was an invitation for people who possess no conscience, also known as scum.
Not a good idea at all.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew C (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:11
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 20:11
Yes I agree the reason for the note would be to negate the unnecessary need for an expensive search and rescue. but unfortunately in today's world you are asking for trouble if you do leave a note and could be up for a hefty bill if you don't and a search is mounted for you in the time you are away from the vehicle chance are though the people who stripped this vehicle would of done it whether there was a note or not.
I don't expect a note to attract the attention of the average traveler most of which are like minded and only to happy to help where ever and when ever needed.
the reason for the note would be to give anybody responding to you PLB a starting point and info about what they are looking for.
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Reply By: Sigmund - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:48
Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:48
Maybe where you have phone reception leave a msg before you go with a friend or family member. Or with a publican, CP manager or maybe the police.
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:27
Thursday, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:27
These days I would hesitate leaving the vehicle unattended if no security is available, the scumbags thrive on that situation, I have heard of Campers leaving their
camp at Teewah Beach for a fishing trip and returning to find everything stolen, and I mean everything, they were away for less than 2 hours.
Cheers
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