Stranded 4WD's after this weekend...?

Submitted: Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:40
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Severe flood warnings for Victoria this weekend, some of the ranges could get 100mm of rain, the Channel 7 Chopper is on standby to deliver food and supplies.. LOL. Whose going out.?
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:27

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:27
I'm going to try and go downhill again in my car TerraFirma, provided some new 2.88 low range gears can be hammered into place before midnight tonight.

I will boost my confidence about returning by taking 2 sets of chains with me.
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:30

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:30
Good Luck Robin, Take some pics, I'm sure you will be ok, have fun.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:33

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:33
I'm not sure its safe to go out Terra.

Those channel 7 boys only deliver snags and I'm a bit Vegetarian.
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:38

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 14:38
Pack some extra veggie burgers Robin and the long life milk. Then keep us entertained via posting of pics and the like, could always pack a fold away boat on the roof racks and paddle home.. LOL
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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 19:18

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 19:18
Hi Robin, well you haven't wasted any time pursuing a solution re downhill. just wondering what the gears are worth - is it an easy job? In your shoes I'd probably do the same, but I take it that there might be a warranty implication. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 22:33

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 22:33
Yep at $1200 plus fitting its costly and all they do is bring gearing back to same as my manual and we still have the torque converter to deal with.

Anyway they are in as per 9pm - hope they help , if not they can always go into the manual 4800 if the auto gets dumped.


Apparently the transfer box is unchanged in 20 years, gotta luv that about Patrols !
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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 09:36

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 09:36
thanks Robin, good luck with it.
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Reply By: Shaker - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 18:54

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 18:54
Some of the ones last time had gone onto closed tracks.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 22:22

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 22:22
Which closed tracks were people stuck on Shaker?
Craig..........
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 23:07

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 23:07
Crooked River Track.

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Reply By: blue one - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 20:30

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 20:30
Chains on muddy tracks??

You should know better
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 23:16

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 23:16
Hi TerraFirma

This may sound ridiculous, but it is fact. 100mm is but a drop when it pours down in the desert, we rarely get heavy rain, but when we do it makes up for lost time, believe me.

When you cannot see the house, during the day, 25 metres across the street, then you know that it is raining.

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:30

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:30
actually ive always seen the oppasite is true

Perth fequently cops 100mm when a front comes over - but you would hardly know it as all the creeks and feeder rivers, drains etc often get that andd it drains straight away

in the desert and semi arid areas the creeks are no where near as efficient

in kalgoorlie 100mm was way more than enough to start the streets flooding and out bush everthink turned to mush, tracks turned into creeks
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Reply By: Member - Rodney B- Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 09:50

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 09:50
Chains on muddy tracks!! And we wonder why Parks wants to close forest tracks. Better to stay home and preserve the tracks till it stops raining.

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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 21:46

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 21:46
G`day Rodney B & blue one,
I don`t mean to be offensive, but I read Robin`s comment regarding the use of Chains differently.
Firstly both he and Terrafirma followed their comments with an "LOL" which said to me that it was a fair bit "tongue in cheek"
Robin didn`t mention using Chains while on any tracks, if I recall from an earlier thread he had done a comparison traction test of some kind on private property and got into some difficulty.
He now is contemplating doing another test but this time taking some chains with him. I assume again on private property.

Why do they still make Chains then ??.


" Better to stay home and preserve the tracks till it stops raining."
Now, you know that statement is just that bit silly.

Are you suggesting he should stay at home just because there may be an off chance that he might require the Chains ?........... Surely not.

On occasions I have been camped in an area for several days or weeks and it has rained prior to leaving to go home.
Are you suggesting that I should have stayed home because of a similar off chance that I might be required to use Chains.? ............. Surely not.

Chains are a part of my Recovery Gear.

Regards,

Scrubby

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Follow Up By: Member - Rodney B- Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 17:19

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 17:19
Point take but I think you miss my point Scrubby.

We know this weekend was a supposed rain event (expecting up to 100mm in the first post) so I am suggesting that in this case better to stay away until the track is drier. I have been 4wding for 50 years all over Aust and on occasions have been caught in the high country, Qld channel country and NT by rain and as yet have not had to resort to chains to get out. (I have had to winch on numerous steep section or in black soil) but chains would be a last resort if the former failed.

While chains work well in mud they also chew up the track something fierce and I believe chains are best used on snow not forest tracks.
I didn't see the earlier thread and I have no problems if someone is on private property, they can do what they like to their own property but Parks and State forests are for public use by all and I am saying we should show some restraint in these areas.

I put chains in the same category as 35inch chunky tires and god help anyone who has to go up a muddy track after them. Your welcome to have them as part of your recovery gear but they are not part of mine except in snow.

Cheers
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