Towing a camper in the Victorian High Country

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We are hoping to do the 4WD trek listed on the Exploroz website between Mansfield and Harrietville (http://www.exploroz.com/TrekNotes/EastVic/Vic_High_Country.aspx) - can anyone give us feedback on whether we will be able to take our Kimberley Kamper on the trip and how difficult it woudl be. We have done a fair bit of towing offroad so are not novices......just not sure if we would be better off sticking with a tent.
Appreciate any feedback
Murray
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Reply By: Member - peter f (VIC) - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 21:01

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 21:01
first off you need to find out what tracks are open .
after all the rain in recent weeks some are to remain closed till they are
repaired .
mechpete
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Reply By: Crackles - Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 22:16

Friday, Nov 12, 2010 at 22:16
Murray the track from King Billy to Howitt is currently closed.

Wonnangatta Valley Access (From the Parks Vic site)
King Billy Track (Final section of access route into Wonnangatta Valley from Mansfield Closed – Entry routes into the valley from Dargo, Licola and Myrtleford/Bright are Open) Note that the Brocks Road – Bluff Track circuit in the Mt Buller area remains Open. Expected Re- openning Date: To Be Confirmed.

As with all High Country routes how hard they are depends on how much rain/snow has fallen. Currently the Trek would be very difficult with rivers up to 1m deep with some hills being cut up badly & very slippery making towing extremely difficult. When the route does open, the areas of concern are the switchbacks & steep clay hill on Zeka Spur, the Wonnangatta River crossing at the end of the Valley, the very steep climb up the Wombat Range & the final climb up to Blue Rag. (As Blue Rag is a one way track, many people drop their campers off at the Dargo road & pick them up on the return run)
The Kimberly it's self will be more than capable although their long drawbars do tend to belly out on the sharper erosion control ditches. You haven't mentioned your tow vehicle which is probably more important. A full sized 4x4 preferably with mud tyres & lockers is ideal when tracks are wet.
If travelling alone I wouldn't recommend towing by yourself either.
So yes when the route opens it can be done if well prepared but it may be very difficult. I myself recommend base camping with trailers & doing day trips from a central location.

Towing accross one of the HC rivers recently.




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Follow Up By: 02.murray - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 06:17

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 06:17
Thanks for that - the vehicle is capable - it is a 200 series landcruiser, mud tyres, lockers and everything else (love it!). We are leaning towards the tenting but will miss the KK
Murray
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 17:14

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 17:14
Murray if you are not set on doing that specific Trek, there are plenty of central camps suitable to get offroad campers in that allow you to have a base that doesn't need to be packed up each day & yet still see most of the areas you have planned without the worry of towing. Places like Pineapple flat, the Buckland Valley & Talbotville to name a few are all excellent locations with major track networks meaning you don't have to retrace your steps over the same routes all the time.
In this case you can have your KK & see it all too.
Craig.......
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Reply By: Moose - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 08:41

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 08:41
G'day Murray
Towed once in there and would never do it again. Not so much because of the difficulty angle but due to the camper limiting what you can do and being inconvenient. We had to base camp and do day trips which meant covering more kms than would have been the case with a tent - often having to come back to camp the way we went out. Next time it will be tenting for us as I believe we could have seen a lot more country that way in the time we had available.
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Reply By: Member - Warrie (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:22

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:22
Hi Murray, hope you like curves as the Vic HC has them in abundance. If you feel a bit queasy then make sure you have a good supply of carsickness tablets. We went to Howqua Hills in January for a week and it hit 43 degrees. But this year it's a La Nina so we are likely to be dodging the storms. Crackles' pic looks impressive at first glance, but the trailer left wheel is in a bit of a hole - the fourby is practically high and dry. But it is more fun to ford a deeper crossing than a drought stricken trickle. Enjoy the trip... W
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Follow Up By: 02.murray - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:19

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:19
We've done some gnarly river crossings in Cape York and more recently, the Kimberley.....but given the comments, we are leaning towards the tent (so sad!).
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:50

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:50
You're right Warrie the trailer was high & dry in comparison to 10 seconds earlier when it was spashing over the bonnat & that was after we waited 2 days for it to come down. Maybe this shot will better show the depth of the Wonnangatta on this lifted Hilux. When fella's in winch challenge vehicles are being swept down stream it makes the Cape rivers look pretty tame. It's been a while since the HC rivers have flowed like this but was quite common back in the 80's & 90's even up to xmas time.

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Follow Up By: Member - Warrie (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:57

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:57
Yep thats more impressive!! Where's his snorkel?? It looks like he's taking a big gulp of H2O. It's been another weekend of high rainfall and flood warnings so I wonder if there will be another lot of stranded travellers. And you're right about NSW management trails - thats why we keep going back to Vic. This Jan will be our 6th trip. Hope it's drier by then... W
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Reply By: Member - Coyote (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 07:28

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 07:28
I was just there last week and although the rivers are up I made numerous high crossing in my 4.2 lifted 2" Gu patrol and would have done so with a trailer. However, due to the narrow tracks etc, I wouldnt have gone down the tracks that said 'rd closed' as there is no way of turning around.

I can assure you that it will be a little while before anytone gets through the King Billy track at the Macalister River. There has been a landslide where there is not only mud across the track but some very very large tress.. we thought we'd give it a go so drove for 2 hrs to get there only to find there was no way even the most modified vehivle was going to clamber over a 'pick up sticks' macramae of 3m tree truncks 3t boulders and mud etc. it will require an excavator to spend a day getting there and then a couple of days work to clear it.

Basin Rd to the East of Pineapple Flat Camping area is also 'closed' but we drove it ok, granted some pretty deep crossings but nothing your 200 serious coiuldnt handle, trailer included.

There has been a lot of work done on the roads since the storms so most are open and in fact in pretty good nick. to their credit, whoever is running the repirs was proactive enought to put up signs well in advance ie, not just at the last intersection before the closure but we had plenty of notice to decide not to waste our time 'trying' to get through.

I suggest the KK will be ok. steer clear of the black diamond tracks and dont bother attemptingthe closed tracks and it wil lbe fine.. have a great time
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:13

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:13
"don't bother attempting the closed tracks"...."area is also 'closed' but we drove it ok" Are you kidding??
Being a member of a 4x4 club local to the High Country that works with Parks Vic helping to clear tracks I can assure you that you're not doing anyone a favour driving them when they are clearly signposted CLOSED. Four Wheel Drive Victoria work hard negotiating access to these tracks only to have arrogant people undermine their work. History shows if you abuse an area they will close it & end up like the NSW & Queensland track network. (Management vehicles only)
Seasonal & extended track closures are well advertised at Parks track access so there is no excuse to be driving around a closure sign even if following some advertised 'Trek Notes'.
Anyone witnessing people damaging the bush or being where they shouldn't can report it here at Dob in a hoon
Please respect the High Country & keep off the closed tracks in future. Craig....


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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:24

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:24
x 2 .... Closed means CLOSED!
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Follow Up By: Member - Coyote (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 16:37

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 16:37
Thanks luvs.. good on you.. I appreciate your constructive criticism.

Oh, BTW.. if you ever do a km/hr over the speed limit or park for 5 mins longer than you should, I hope you reflect upon your righteous/holyer than though position here and feel good about yourselves.

If you wanted to be a ranger or a cop then you should have gone and done the training.

I didnt damage any bushland or 'hoon' through the bush ripping up tracks. I took a calculated risk that I knew I was without help if I dug myself into a hole. The road was there, I didnt damage it, I just drove along it. I just drove though an area that clearly National Parks didnt feel was suitable for the average joe to be allowed to attempt. My risk, my penalty if I stuff it up and get stuck.

Opinions are like a'holes - everyone has one but not everyone else wants to hear them. Forums like this are great as long as everyone is being constructive and helpfull. As far as passing judgements / or expressing un-asked for opinions.. keep them to yourself.. this is not the place for them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Coyote (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 16:40

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 16:40
P.S.. See Rule No.1 of the Forum Rules if you are unsure what is / is not acceptable in regards to using a forum like this.
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