Car Ramps

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:36
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Not sure how to word this but I have been looking at purchasing S/hand car ramps. I own a 2.3 tonne 4X4. Each ramp will support 750kg. So the question is, do I add the 750 X 2 = 1500kg. And look at the front of the 4WD on the ramps as half the vehicle weight being 1115kg? The seller of the ramps cannot quote a SWL but he does know each ramp will support 750kg. Will the ramps support the vehicle safely is what the question is. Thanks.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:47

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:47
Probably but unless they were very wide stable ramps with no obvious sag in them I would be reluctant to get under a 4by except on a flat concrete surface.

How are they rated By the owner By a plate on them.
Not my cup of tea I'm afraid.
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Reply By: Gramps - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:33

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:33
Why not look at a trolley jack and set of stands ? May be a lot safer.
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Reply By: Dave(NSW) - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:33

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:33
Super Cheap sell two different sets of ramps, one for cars and one for 4x4s. I use the heavier ones with my Patrol (3.32T) and they don't look like bending.
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Reply By: Hairy (WA) - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 14:00

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 14:00
Gday,
I would want each ramp to support at least half of the total weight of your vehicle. Although it will only be holding a quarter of the weight once its on, more force will be exerted while driving on and off, and while working on your vehicle.
Be careful with some of the cheap ones......Ive seen some pretty dodgy welding on some of them.

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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 14:28

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 14:28
Yep..... 1" x 1" angle, they would look scary under a 4x4..... Michael
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Reply By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 14:40

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 14:40
Are you handy with a welder? If so, why not make ya own?

I made meself a pair of ramps 20-odd years ago (when I didn't own a 4wd), and I've yet to see anything at S/Cheap or Repco et al that will come anywhere near these :)

They are well braced, & I put checkerplate on the 'driving surface'....

Rated?? What's that?? but I can tell you that I have no hesitation in driving either end of a Patrol on 'em & getting underneath said Patrol ;-)

My SIL borrows 'em whenever he wants to get under his 'Cruiser.....

YMMV....

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Follow Up By: OzTroopie - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:06

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:06
Hi Ed,

Whilst you may be great with the welder (i'm not questioning your skills), it's not worth the risk doing it yourself. A factory manufacturing to the Australian Standards must pass a set of quality controls, in the home workshop this does not happen.

Your rig may "look strong" and hold up for years, but it's not worth the risk of something going wrong or the stand failing without notice while in use. There is no way for you to test your stand at home (e.g. you can't x-ray to welds). It's even more concerning that you're lending them to others to use. God help if something went wrong and the Coronor asked "why was a non-approved vehicle stand being used to support the vehicle". What would you say?

To anyone out there, i'd recommend using Australian Standards approved trolley jack and vehicle support stands. You can't put a price on your safety whilst working under a car, it simply isn't worth the risk. Unless your a qualified engineer and have the facilities to design, manufacture and test (the to Aus Standards), leave it to those who can.

Far to many people are killed working under cars, the last thing we need to do is encourage practices which may keep these figures high.




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Follow Up By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 04:21

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 04:21
Hmmm.........

OK then,

I guess on that logic, I'd better retire the (tandem axle) box trailer which I made in 1984, and which has been across the continent (loaded) 3 times (I was living/working in WA when I made it), and which is annually used as my "winter firewood hauler"....

Especially so, since several years ago, one of my nephews rolled it on it's back without so much as putting a dent in it! (did 'kink' the A-frame though;-)
Shock! Horror! I'd lent it to my BIL;-))

Hang on, my other SIL has possession of this one as we speak... I'd better warn him of the dangers of using goods not 'factory manufactured' to Australian Standards....

FYI, I have had a hand in fabricating heavy broadacre tillage equipment (among other things), and have full confidence in my own workmanship...

Thanks anyway for expressing your concern..

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 18:36

Saturday, Nov 13, 2010 at 18:36
I've got a set of the 750kg Sandfred stands that I've had for donkey years - I'd never use them for a Landcruiser because they look too flimsy. I prefer a trolley jack and axle stands anyway.
Can't compromise on this stuff - too many people get killed when working under cars.
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Reply By: Member - Gavin W (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:13

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:13
Buy a trolley jack and some jack stands.

As an extra, I always put two of my spares under the chassis rails as well, just in case. This saved me once in the past.
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Reply By: OREJAP - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 08:55

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 08:55
Thanks everyone for the replies & advice.
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Reply By: landseka - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 09:34

Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 09:34
Bolt a couple railway sleepers together, a couple 45deg cuts and you now have ramps that you could park a bulldozer on.

Cheers Neil
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