Should I be beefing up suspension
Submitted: Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 18:23
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Hi I will be fitting a dual Karmar Whee carrier, Shortly to mo TD (IFS) 100 series. I,ve already fitted a cargo barrier and other accessories to the rear. I will be getting bigger tan wheel the spare wheel was. My Cruiser is fitted with airbags which I can obviously adjust. My question is once the carrier is on and new
tank in all full laden will the air bags be sufficient.
Appreciate comments
Reply By: skulldug - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 18:58
Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 18:58
Hi rare,
Why don't you have the carrier fitted and see how it rides? You could spend lots of dollars just to get a bumpier ride.
Skull
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Follow Up By: rare - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 19:05
Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 19:05
lolol Yeah I guess thats try
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Reply By: Member - Joel and Michelle (WA - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:04
Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:04
G'day Rare
had this same setup (draws, fridge, cargo barrier,Dual wheel carrier, 95 + 170 litres fuel), on same, 2006 100s Td IFS,also 2 inch lift and air bags even fully loaded sat
well. Then I put the 25 ft van on. Damn!
Even with all that I would still see how it sits before doing anything to the
suspension.
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650mm longer. I'm excited
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:23
Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:23
And by the time you put all that on and sit in it you are just about overloaded even before hooking the van on
Max payload for a TD auto is 672kg including ballweight.
Unless you get the GVM upgraded of course
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Follow Up By: Member - Joel and Michelle (WA - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:39
Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:39
Yeah Graham, it drove very
well, but I was too scared to take it over a weighbridge. When I sold the dual wheel carrier it took three of us to pick it up.
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Follow Up By: bigbilly - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:42
Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:42
Aren't all fwds over loaded lol.
Bill
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Reply By: Ruffy-Dan - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 22:16
Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 22:16
When you say "Airbags" i'm presuming you mean polyairs or ride rites or similar. These are only ever intended to supplement your springs on occassion, not carry a permanent load. Given that the accessorys you have fitted are permanent fixtures you should definitely get springs to suit the load you are carrying and shocks to help the heavier springs.
If you get the right advice on the
suspension then you wont end up with a bumpy ride but rather a more stable and safer vehicle. You can get spacers for the bags and keep them for when you are fully laden.
Dan
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Follow Up By: Member - Joel and Michelle (WA - Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 22:31
Sunday, Nov 14, 2010 at 22:31
Ruffy-Dan, only used the air bags when towing weren't required even when fully loaded for a 3 week trip on the gibb with the better half and two boys. Simply dropped the pressure from 30 Psi Max to 15 when not towing
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Follow Up By: rare - Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 09:14
Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 09:14
Thanks Ruffy-Dan.
Yeah you are correct there are Polyairs. Any recommendations on
suspension advice.
It always concerns when seeking advice from suppliers that there always bias towards there own product which may not be the best solution?
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Follow Up By: Ruffy-Dan - Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:15
Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:15
Hey Joel,
Not quite sure what you are saying there?
Did you do the Gibb trip with 15 psi? and when do you run 30?
If the bags had 15 psi then you were using them to supplement
the springs.
Dan.
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Follow Up By: Member - Joel and Michelle (WA - Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 20:01
Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 20:01
I tow a 25ft jayco Sterling and pump them up to 30 psi when towing. I was told by a 2
suspension specialists, that having them at 30 psi whilst on rocky or corrugated roads would be very uncomfortable. Whilst fully loaded and the airbags at 15psi the vehicle drives and handles very
well.
joel
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 09:22
Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 09:22
Rare,
As you can see from my profile I have the same vehicle as you. I have also fitted the same gear as you plan plus others. My
suspension sagged badly and I fitted a 2" lift, polyairs & Bilstein shocks. All good after that. I would wait until the gear is on so you can get the ride height right but you will need upgraded
suspension.
Make sure they adjust the rear brake compensator because raising the ride height will make it think you have a light load and reduce the bias to the rear brakes. This will noticeably degrade your braking. A relatively simple adjustment but often overlooked.
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Reply By: Member - Chris & Debbie (QLD) - Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 18:42
Monday, Nov 15, 2010 at 18:42
Hi rare
Try talking to Shane from
suspension stuff, tell him what you have and what you want from the vehicle and he will advise what is best for you. He does not just sell once brand of spring or shock so will not just try to push one brand. I found him to very helpful, much cheaper than a lot of
places and delivery is free.
Usual disclaimer, I am not affiliated in anyway, have just been a happy customer.
Chris
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