falcon problem

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 09:59
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Not a 4 wheel drive question but with all the expertise shown on this forum I may get an answer...the central locking on my ef falcon wagon plays up...that is ..when you lock it with the key or button and mainly in warmer weather the door locks will not engage for some time , they just travel up and down , up and down and so on until they decide to lock the vehicle..I know or believe that it is a faulty actuator in the passenger side rear door...when I say that I know , this is what the local Ford dealers told me and charged me $25 to tell me ..they also told me that to fix the problem I need a complete set of new actuators ...cost $465 plus fitting costs...others have told me different ,that is that I only need to replace the faulty component....it is a real pain having to stand at the car turning the key backwards and forwards waiting for the stupid thing to decide to lock....heres hoping...cheers
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Reply By: Member - Tim&jan - Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:18

Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:18
I too had a problem with my falcon I didnt bother with it I just towed it to the tip with the gu or should i say recycle jointgu bush basha
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog Morgan (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:30

Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:30
What was the problem with itI may be mad but I'm not crazy
Hooroo
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Reply By: Member - Tim&jan - Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:35

Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:35
Missas put the foot down as she loves to going to the spud shed which is on a steep hill the timing gear sliped a cog or 2 it is cheaper to replace the xf falcon than fix it?gu bush basha
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog Morgan (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:49

Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:49
Carb or EFII may be mad but I'm not crazy
Hooroo
Ray
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Reply By: Mad Dog Morgan (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:48

Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:48
EF actuators were a problem right from the start. If only one is bung I don't see the need to replace all. They used to be about $100. You can also go after market.
Try another mechanic for a fair deal.I may be mad but I'm not crazy
Hooroo
Ray
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Reply By: Member - Tim&jan - Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:58

Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 10:58
It was carb it is sitting in the rockingham tip if ya want it good recond gear box just added i dont have any more dramas with falcons .I think the missus needs to upgrade to anouther 4be gu bush basha
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog Morgan (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 11:35

Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 11:35
Falcons! never had a problem with mine but it's only done 17K
Changing to a 4b is a good move though :)I may be mad but I'm not crazy
Hooroo
Ray
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Reply By: frank - Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 11:44

Sunday, Nov 02, 2003 at 11:44
Bruce,regarding your door lock problem,these are the "FACTS". I work for a Ford dealership in Melbourne,you need to replace full set of actuators if the existing actuators are not compatable with current new stocks,that will depend on build date of your vehicle or whether or not they have been replaced previously,(which is very possible as this is a known concern),otherwise only the problem actuator has to be replaced (assuming that can be determined).Having said all of that believe it or not Ford are still running an extension of warranty on "cycling actuator problems (unless something has changed in last 2-3 weeks) on EF and EL regardless of whether you are the original owner of the vehicle or not.,unfortunately some dealers are genuinly not aware of the re-introduction of this program some time ago.If a new set of actuators is required or if it is one required it should be covered by warranty . Suggest you contact Ford customer relations centre on phone 133673 (melbourne) for further clarification. I will be interested to hear of your response and will be happy to advise further if necessary.
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Follow Up By: bruce - Monday, Nov 03, 2003 at 14:24

Monday, Nov 03, 2003 at 14:24
Thanks for that reply Frank ..pity the bloke at customer relations at Ford could not have been a bit more civil or helpfull...no there is no extended warranty ...apparently I do have to purchase a complete new full set ... from Ford of course...and no I cannot use a used set from another vehicle , oh well I will keep looking for options as i do not like the idea of parting with $600 just to lock the doors normally...they still lock it is just that one has to be patient and stand there looking like a dill turning the key untill the system decides to lock , ..usually after about 7 or 8 trys...there must be another way of doing it...cheers
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Reply By: Tristjo (Brisbane) - Monday, Nov 03, 2003 at 00:37

Monday, Nov 03, 2003 at 00:37
For comparison, a local car sound mob up here, JB HI FI, had a complete central locking set for $29. Installed. Bout the price of ur diagnosis.
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Reply By: frank - Monday, Nov 03, 2003 at 21:15

Monday, Nov 03, 2003 at 21:15
Bruce. please stay posted,i am back at work on wednesday and will follow up on latest on this issue.We processed a claim with ford as recent as 3 weeks ago with same conditions as yours (and have done regularly over last year or so).What is your location (roughly) in relation to Melbourne?,Don't give up yet,cheers Frank.
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Follow Up By: bruce - Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 20:09

Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 20:09
Thanks heaps Frank...I am in Sth West Vic nearly as far West as you can get and as far South as you can get...cheers
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:33

Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:33
Funny, just reminds me why hubby and I have sworn off Fords FOREVER. Our EA falcon (never a bigger pile of garbage put on the road) had exactly the same problem you are describing. Only intermitent though so we never bothered fixing it - couldn't afford to anyway. Damn car kept us broke just trying to keep in drivable.

:-| MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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Follow Up By: G.T. - Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 14:02

Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 14:02
Melissa - Things have`nt changed. Some Gold Cost Taxi`s that are using Au - Au II Falcon dedicated L.P.G. vehicles - ie no petrol tank, are experiencing oil consumption problems at 160.000 km onwards. Petrol fuelled vehicles seem to be O.K. Any one out there thinking of purchasing one should check the vehicle out and get an extended 2nd hand warranty to be safe. Regards G.T.
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Follow Up By: bruce - Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 20:04

Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 20:04
Sorry to hear about your problems Melissa , but the only problem I have is the central locking system...this vehicle took us on a 5 1/2 mth trip around oz 5yrs ago with out any major hassles and is still running pefectly...we had 3 holden wagons before it...and although being good cars....the Ford is better...cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 22:59

Tuesday, Nov 04, 2003 at 22:59
Hi Bruce,

Glad to hear you've had better experiences with your falcon than us with ours. But then, the EA's were notoriously bad. I didn't mean to imply your EF wasn't any good, just that the problem you describe with the central locking has been around and been known by Ford to be a problem in their Falcons for many years, but apparently they still haven't fixed it.

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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Reply By: frank - Wednesday, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:10

Wednesday, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:10
Bruce,contact me on 0423056563 work hours only,(oot of range after that).cheers Frank
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Follow Up By: bruce - Wednesday, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:37

Wednesday, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:37
Probably next week , having the car serviced and tuned on Monday by a bloke out of town who is reputed to be pretty smart ..it took a week to get a booking...see what happens there , but will keep in touch...cheers
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Reply By: frank - Wednesday, Nov 05, 2003 at 19:39

Wednesday, Nov 05, 2003 at 19:39
Bruce,i have confirmed your concern is still eligible for warranty,you have been given incorrect information.If you contact me i will advise you further.Frank.
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Reply By: bruce - Friday, Nov 07, 2003 at 08:20

Friday, Nov 07, 2003 at 08:20
Problem has been fixed...or will be this time next week...when Ford do it under warranty...Frank..you are a genius..many , many thanks for your time and trouble , you have saved me heaps in money and frustration...cheers and best wishes....
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