Are The new Model 4Bys really built for Australian conditions !??
Submitted: Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 18:44
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Axle
My opinion is " Not Really"!, Toyota GLX 100s fabric seats, Rubbish, The floor carpet, Hardly call it hard wearing!!, Plenty of cheap plastic, vinyl bits that twist and warp!, Have a look at the outside bits and pieces that bolt on to most Jap work utes,( Wrong word stuck on) Hardly come into the cat, of a tough as nails ute?, un breakable they reckon LOl...LOL. If you want to carry good loads with any make or model, continuously over rough country, then a rebuild of key points is required. For the money we have to pay for a so called work Horse i think its a bit rude really; .... My Rant For The day..lol.
Cheers Axle.
Reply By: 3GoBush - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 18:54
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 18:54
Hey Axle that was a good cast, but there wasn't enough bait for me to get hooked on, sorry. LOL
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Reply By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:03
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:03
It's about time we start building our own....
Aussie designed and made, for Australian conditions yeah!
Anyone chipping in?
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Follow Up By: Bushranger1 - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:28
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:28
We do. The mighty Ford Territory!
Bugger. It's a soft roader.
Problem is with the way the Aussie car industry is no one will invest the dollars. To many cheap imports.
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Follow Up By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:42
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:42
Interesting that you didn't mention the OKA which is exactly at the other end of the scale ;)
cheers
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Follow Up By: Bushranger1 - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 20:31
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 20:31
Good point. I forgot about that one. Were popular in W.A. a few years ago.
I read somewhere they are made overseas somewhere but I can't recall where.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:30
Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:30
"We do. The mighty Ford Territory! "
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hardly rates as a car! ROFLMAO!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 04:59
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 04:59
what do you think the tojo ute and troopy work horses are?
you cant buy them in
places that dont need tough no nonsense vehicles such as europe, japan and usa
just those that do such as Australia,Africa and the middle east
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Reply By: Moose - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:16
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:16
100 Series - new model??? Axle - where ya been for the past 4 years or so?
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Follow Up By: Axle - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:44
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:44
UH!, You reckon the the latest would have a better build quality?, ....Maybe?
Cheers Axle
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Reply By: Steve - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:51
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:51
yo Axe - must be another Defender owner.
a true offroader, no recalls, no reliability probs........still can't whack it
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Follow Up By: Axle - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 20:34
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 20:34
G/day Steve, Don't worry ,The defenders are comming!,,,,Hahahahaha,
Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: mikehzz - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:52
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 19:52
Sorry mate, I was born in the dark ages just after the paleolithic era. I barely walk upright if that is an indication. I reckon that just about any of the newer cars now are light years in front of what we used to drive. More comfortable, more economical, more power and more reliable. Good old days? Baloney. A lot of the drivers are not so good though.... Mike
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Reply By: rocco2010 - Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 20:00
Friday, Nov 19, 2010 at 20:00
Gidday
If cars never wore out people woldn"t need to buy new ones ... that wouldn't be good for business.
Even we don't last forever. Despite the modern technology don't look for much warranty cover beyond the old three score years and 10.
Cheers
Rocco
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 17:31
Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 17:31
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Reply By: Member - Peter S1 (TAS) - Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 21:19
Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 21:19
We have done over 200,000 k's in our 100 Series TD LC - not a problem with it.
Nothing has fallen off and we would buy another one tomorrow. Get a life and look after what you have purchased and t will look after you .
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Reply By: Member - John S (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 23:53
Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 at 23:53
Gday Axle,
I have just bought an '06 patrol wagon fitted with a chev 6.5l V8 diesel. I picked it up in
Perth, and drove through
the desert back to
Cairns. didn't miss a beat mate! And nothing fell off it. so do we call that a bitsa? Its japanese, with and american motor that has crossed the great australian deserts.....
John
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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 02:12
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 02:12
Hi Axle
I have been in contact with a friend of
mine in Kalkaringi, and another nin
Halls Creek, and they had the same results as me. The majority of the breakdowsn on the Tanami, the Duncan and the Great Northern between
Halls Creek and
Fitzroy Crossing this traveller season were later model vehicles.
The 100 series GXL and later have that much alloy in their gearbox that they have a hrad time coping with serious 4wd'ing. I dropped the oil out of three diffs for people, and it came out almost milky after they had been through
water, and we all know what that means.
There was also three cars with loose 'knuckles' (I am not sure of the proper name) on the front drive shafts, even though they were
well packed. I have to agree with you, give me a 75 series or 78 series anytime, and then just recondition it, so easy.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 05:05
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 05:05
100 seiries have a stronger gear box than the 79 which are a disposable item on a 79 and as for diffs, we went through 3 front ones on our work 79
75s are a good thing but getting long in the tooth now and were prone to snapping axle studs which i had happen many times
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 17:16
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 17:16
You've lost me from the start. Toyota has never made a GLX
Craig..........
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Follow Up By: Dave(NSW) - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 18:03
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 18:03
I think we know he ment GXL.
Dave..
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 21:14
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 21:14
"Toyota GLX 100s fabric seats, Rubbish, The floor carpet, Hardly call it hard wearing!"
Wow!! Of all the features of modern day 4x4's you pick on
seat fabric & carpet as an examples of current poor build quality. What the???? As if old cars never wore out the fabric just as fast if not quicker.
When comparing old with new I'd ask more important questions like is the 3 litre Nissan engine really suited to Aussie conditions? Are the complicated computers & electronics used to get 2 litres per hundred better fuel comsumption worth the increased risk of failure?
Cos really you can always fit a
seat cover or floor mats to a car but it's dam hard to get a modern car going when the air flow sensor packs it in.
Cheers Craig..................
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Follow Up By: Axle - Monday, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:44
Monday, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:44
Thanks for the sarcasim mate!!, If you add on what your rabbiting on with about 3l nissans and hi tec components, then your only enforcing what i'm saying!.... When you pay $ 67,000, for a vehicle and five yrs later the
seat fabric is pulling a part at the stitching, the glove box warping, carpet
well worn, at a lot less than 200,000ks, not to mention niggly electrical probs, Then as far as i'm concerned the vehicle deserves criticism, and i might add its never been off road, just a shopping trolley for its previous owner and ourselves,,
Toyota !!!!!!!.......PFFFFFFFT!
Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, Nov 22, 2010 at 17:42
Monday, Nov 22, 2010 at 17:42
No sarcasim Axle, I am agreeing with you just your title suggested dissatifaction with all modern vehicles in general but turned into a Toyota bash the further you went on. I on the other hand reckon all brands are are slipping to some degree compromising reliability & durability for improved comfort, power, handling & econemy.
The minor issues you've mentioned are really just that, minor. While for the price you may expect them to last longer, that in my book is just normal wear & tear. On my 105 I was more concerned with the 4 blown front diffs, 2 recalls, a failed 4 wheel drive actuator & collapsed ignition tumbler. I would have swapped any of them for your warped glove box ;-) (sarcasim)
Cheers Craig................
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 18:44
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 18:44
As far as Australia specific models go it is a
well known fact that the market here is miniscule in the scope of the world.
The Arab States are apparently where the market is aimed at as they seem to be the biggest buyers.
EG where is the new Patrol going first Yep thats right prev sentence.
So if we buy less of them we will fare worse not better.
May all be reduced to buying Landrovers Perish the thought
None of the OP's faults have shown up in my 100 ser so dont know what he does to his but am more than happy with it and will be sorry to sell it next year.
It will have less than 200,000 on it then
The dash hasnt split like a Patrol The motor hasnt blown up like a Patrol.
Chassis hasnt buckled like the so called 3t capacity utes.
Nothing has fallen off.
Worst thing to happen is L/H rear mudflap has warped cos I spilled diesel over it several times.
Havent even ever had a puncture My fabric seats are still unmarked and not worn.
So dont know how you treat your vehicles but as said Look after it.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 21:24
Sunday, Nov 21, 2010 at 21:24
My new car is built for Australian conditions.
It has live axles and nice big coils at each end - a very strong drive train - tough axles and very strong low tech engine.
You can drag its chassis over nasty ground.
Doesn't tip over till almost 50 degrees , only has 33 psi pressure fuel rails, doesn't throw a wobbly at the thought of a bit of dirty fuel.
Has $9 spark plugs , not $1000 injectors - spares are easy to find , even the windscreen shape hasn't changed for 12 years.
It even does its fair share of consuming that natural resoucre, Petrol.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Monday, Nov 22, 2010 at 19:12
Monday, Nov 22, 2010 at 19:12
Pipe Down Robin!!,.....You make me wan't to go and hang myself!....LOL.
Cheers Axle
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