25W + Remote head UHF

Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 13:03
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I am looking for a remote head UHF CB with 25 plus watts. ICOM 400pro would be perfect but I have nowhere to put it.

It should be capable of the new 80Ch ( 12.5khz?) from Jan 1.

The closest thing I can find is a remote head GME TX 3800 with remote head but at $700 I want to look at other options first. Have searched here but I do recall a couple of overseas suggestions.

NO SELF APPOINTED LAWYERS GIVING LEGAL ADVICE PLEASE. Also I am aware of the receive / transmitt issues etc however these won't affect my use.

Any ideas?


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Reply By: Kanga1 - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 15:37

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 15:37
Boobook, there are 2 TX 3800 sets for sale on flea bay right now for reasonable $, I have had one for a few years and it has been a good reliable radio. Cheers, Kanga.
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 19:34

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 19:34
The current TX3800 is wide band only.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:06

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:06
Steve, you may like to check again. It can definitely be set used in narrow or wideband ( 12.5 or 25khz)
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Follow Up By: Mike DiD - Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 22:04

Sunday, Nov 28, 2010 at 22:04
There are many radios that can be set to 25 or 12.5 - on TRANSMIT.

They don't have two receive filters, so it'll be legal to use them after 2013, but you'll get interference from the two adjacent channels.

e.g. you're set to receive on Channel 20, but because you're using a 25kHz filter, you'll also pick up transmissions on 19A and 20A.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:28

Monday, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:28
Mike, do you know if that is the case for the 3800? It appears that it can set each channel for narrow band or wide band for both Tx and Rx
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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 16:32

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 16:32
25 watts is illegal in Australia, no one will sell you one commercially.
Go onto flea bay America and buy from there as long as you know what model set you want, 25 watts is the norm over there.


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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 16:39

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 16:39
But what is the right model? That's the 25W question.
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 17:03

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 17:03
My understanting is that they are advertised as 25 watts across the board,CB's mainly.
If you buy say a tx4400 in Oz, it will be 5 watts, buy a TX4400 O/S it MAY be a 25 watts.
My mate boght a couple of Icoms ex uSA and they where 25 watts and a lot cheaper, he just had to wait a while
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 19:36

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 19:36
The TX4400 is only sold in Aust. & NZ. It is also not capable of 25 watts.
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 16:35

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 16:35
I know that GME are Australian made and maybe not available overseas, i was using TX 4400 model number as an example.
Thanks for the info
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 19:40

Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 19:40
You can get a 65w unit in North America
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 20:37

Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 20:37
25 W UHF sets sold in Oz are programmed to reduce their power to 5 W when they operate on the CB frequencies. There has been 12.5 kHz channels in some parts or the 403 - 520 MHz band for well over 12 years so there should be plenty of sets that will be capable of operating on the new CB channels.


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Reply By: OzTroopie - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 16:59

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 16:59
Hi Boobook,


Perhaps you'd be able to explain to us your intended use (i.e in vehicle??), and how your use manages to be exempt from Australian Communications and Media Authority guidelines? That way the response from can be better matched to exactly what you need it for.



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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:02

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 20:02
If you don't know the possible use then you probably don't know the answer to my question so i will pass on spending the time informing you, thanks. I'll have to live without your input regrettably.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 21:15

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 21:15
What a stupid response to a genuine question to assist you Boobook.

I too would be interEsted to know your intnded legal use in Australia for the 25watt UHF.

You very much appear to be stalling and uncomfortable ti tell us what your ned and use is for 25 watt UHF is in Australia.

Giving you the benefit of doubt created by your responses..maybe it is legitimate and could be of use to others here.... so it's over to you again to be a nice gentleman and tell us what possible legal use there is in Australia for 25 watt UHF..? ...for you and us.

...otherwiae I would question your fellowship and why the owners of this forum are allowing you to discuss and foster an illegal activity... unless you wish to tell us the legitimacy of 25 watt UHF in Australia. I am intersted.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:10

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:10
G`day Andrew,
My knowledge of this subject is rather limited and while I don`t wish to take sides in a debate about possible uses or the legality of using 25 watts of power I think that to suggest that Boobook is acting in any untoward way is a bit rough.
I have a UHF radio that is capable of being programmed to work on 25 watts, if I was to have it programmed to do so it would be because I needed it to be.

One possibility is, I may be asked sometime to use my vehicle to help a business friend who has a fleet of trucks, the trucks use the commercial uhf channels that work on 25 watts.
And it is legal.

If Boobook has a use for a 25 watt uhf then that is, IMHO his business.

I couldn`t care less what the reason people seek info on this forum for.

Regards,

Scrubby.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 07:15

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 07:15
AndrewL, you may be upset that I don't tell you my use and as you say interested to know my activities, but frankly I can't see how it is any of your business. You don't seem to have anything to add other than a need to know my business and be suspicious of my activities. Frankly, the reason I won't post my business purpose is sticky beaks like you and IP containment.

The issues have been complex and way beyond my desire to communicate it to self appointed guardians of my legal welfare who have never met me. I would prefer to live without the benefit of your help. However feel free to remain suspicious, and upset that I'm not telling you the ins and outs of my business. Sheez.

It was nice to offer giving me the benefit of doubt if I outlined all my business to you. Of course we are so close that I would do that. I would feel much better telling the world my business plan so YOU can give me the benefit of the doubt on a legal issue you have no idea on.

Thanks but no thanks AndrewL. If you read my OP would could have wasted less of everone's time.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 07:56

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 07:56
Hey...woo up Boobook....settle 'ol mate...we are not the Feds, or the Tax man....I don't think anyone is interested (or upset about) in all of your business/s mate, just the application of the use of 25 watt UHF in Australia is interesting, thats all, do try not to read into people's inquisitiveness as anymore than that.

You are avoiding the simple issue...now it seems for privacy issues of where you may be using your UHF.. as that is all the question is.

As for being a sticky beak, nice one, if you can't answer a simple question, throw some labels around..lol.. and use 4 paragraphs to do it...you have plenty of time it seems.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:43

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:43
Andrew, it's not that I can't answer the question, it's that I don't want to, I feel no compulsion to report to YOU on these matters and do what you demand. It's N-O-N-E of your business, and if you feel that I'm not fair or reasonable in doing that, then that is your perogative. I am sorry that you feel that I've not kept you informed about my plans sufficiently. But of course this has nothing to do with my OP.

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Follow Up By: Dust-Devil - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:47

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:47
Stick to you guns Boobook as it is none of the Ooo! Ooo! brigades business what you want you want to do.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:22

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:22
Thanks Dust-Devil.

This is a great forum but there are a lot of people with nothing to do other than tell you what you can't do from 2000km away, even though they know nothing about your situation. I thought I would get rid of those annoying "flies" with the OP but obviously not ;-)

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Follow Up By: Rob! - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:04

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:04
What's a perogative?
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:19

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:19
You'll know when you run over one.
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Reply By: crykies - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 21:16

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 21:16
what you want is a icom ic 208h 5/15/50 watts this radio does need to be modded (1 resistor removed) and then the user can program it fron the pront panel. it is a remote head and much better then the GME radios you might be looking for. radio does vhf/uhf (recomended not full power on the cb freq for the radio but i do and have had no issues.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:46

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:46
That looks good. will check it out.

I would prefer a unit with the display and keys in the mike if possible ( sorry I wasn't clear about this in the OP.
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Reply By: awill4x4 - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:32

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:32
I've been in a club convoy where one of the club members had a hotrodded Icom pushing 25 watts and what a pain for all the other members. His replies crashed through and if you turned up the squelch you couldn't hear the other members.
In a club convoy situation there is no benefit whatsoever, sure you can push out the signal but it doesn't do a damn thing better on the receiving side so what's the point.
The member in question was politely told of how his transmissions were coming through for other members and he was very surprised at just how annoying his use of 25 watts in a club situation really was.
Regards Andrew.
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Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:55

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2010 at 22:55
Boobook,

Just about any of the commercial UHF radios that can be programmed withing the frequency band will do as you wish.

I have a Tait 2020, which I am fairly certain will cover the new allocation at 12.5kHz chan spacing,though I haven't investigated thoroughly.

These sets can also be programmed for differing power levels on different channels. Eg. 5 watts on the CB channels and 25 watts on the commercial/private channels as required.

The commercial sets will FAR outperform the normal CB sets and given their much more robust construction will outlast them also. I haven't looked back since I chucked out the old Phillips FM 620...

Cheers,

Mark
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Reply By: Member - xrdave (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 04:31

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 04:31
Try this place. They might has some secondhand radios.

http://www.michaelselectronics.com/shop/view/267/38/uhf-radios-accessories/commercial-repeaters/gme-tx3800-25-5-watt
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:20

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:20
Boobook,

is UHF specific to your requirements?

Marine VHF sets are capable of 25 watts off the shelf.

By the way, I understood your original post perfectly and what's your business, is your business.



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Follow Up By: Member - xrdave (QLD) - Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 03:30

Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 03:30
X2 :-)
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Reply By: Chaz - Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:02

Friday, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:02
Boobook,

Consider a Motorola Syntrx. They use to sell on ebay for around $150, very robust units and are very easy to modify. They are 25W and can be up to 125 channels if memory serves me right, depending on the model. I've been using them for years with no issues.

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