GPS comparison personal test

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 17:46
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For anyone interested, I took a little run the other day from Zig Zag near Lithgow along Blackfellows Hand Track, across the Newnes road and along the track to Baan Baal Gap then out onto the main road at Ben Bullen, up to Capertee and then Glen Davis. I wanted to test my GPS devices and see how they rated. The route did not have much mobile reception on my Vodafone network so was a pretty good test of the GPS only.
My candidates were a 7" Chinese no name running full Oziexplorer CE, an iPhone 3gs running Memory Map and an iPad 3G running Memory Map.
The Chinese no name was pretty excellent, never lost signal, can run IGO turn by turn or Ozi and is great value for money. The screen is harder to see in bright light and some of the maps (100K NSW) were difficult to read even at 7" but that could be my old eyes.
The iphone was much easier to read but nowhere near as accurate. Several times it lost a fix and couldn't get it back. I rebooted it (hard off sequence) and both times it got a fix again but not quickly. The memory maps were only 250K so the detail wasn't great but very easy to see. Overall though it was temperamental and a lot of fiddling.
The ipad was pretty brilliant. Very easy to read and very accurate. The antenna must be huge in comparison to the iphone because it never lost signal. The screen is by far the best of the lot. The only problems I had with it was finding somewhere to put it and the fact that the car chargers don't seem to be able to provide enough charge while it is being used. This causes Memory Map to keep blacking the screen to save power which is an annoying trait in a gps application.
I have the Sygic turn by turn street maps for the iphone and ipad and they are quite good much like TomTom. Its good that you don't have to pay twice to put them on each device. You have to pay through the nose for Memory Map and I'm not sure of the value. The big value winner is the no name 7" even though under some circumstances it is a little hard to read. I hear that Ozi will be releasing an iphone/ipad version in the new year. The website says they have all the development equipment. Priority one is the android Google version first though.
I hope this has helped some people.
Cheers Mike
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 18:13

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 18:13
Hi Mike, What program are you running on the I Pad? I whave been wondering about running maps on an I Pad.. Michael
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 18:14

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 18:14
OOOps Mike. I should read first before opening my mouth... Michael
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 18:28

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 18:28
No probs. If it wasn't urgent I would hang out for the ipad version of Ozi as I'm assuming that all the maps would be compatible. Memory Map costs, the format isn't used anywhere else and you can't read other common formats. They have it nailed down so you have to buy their gear. Mike
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 18:31

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 18:31
Also don't forget that the gps is only in the 3G version. You don't need a sim to make it work though.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 19:14

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 19:14
Also it is AGPS which needs towers to allow it to run which probably accounts for the dropouts.

This according to the expert I rang the other day to enquire and he said the Iphone does NOT have an inbuilt GPS like say a Tom Tom or a Navman

Dont shoot me Im only the messenger.

You could however use Tom Tom on it with a Bluetooth GPS like I do with my old Nokia 6120

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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 19:41

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 19:41
Sorry but I don't think your expert is an expert. The agps does not need towers full stop. I have proven that in some really remote places like the Simpson Desert. The agps is a proper gps with a bonus helper function of triangulating from the phone towers where available. Plenty of other experts saying this on the net. Dedicated gps's have better suited aerials that don't have to deal with phone signals as well hence better performance. There were definately no towers where I was and the ipad was strong (didn't even have a sim in it so no possibility of tower help). The iphone on the other hand has a pathetic antenna for both phone and gps. Even mild cloud cover can knock it out. Probably the worst reception phone I have had, but very good in other ways. I class it as a city slicker phone.
I must say, 'Assisted GPS' does make it sound handicapped though. Cheers, Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 20:06

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 20:06
You may be right but I havent got a data allowance on my Iphone as I only use it for a phone and didnt want to get lumbered with charges If I use the GPS so rang and asked a Tech at Telstra.

He said it needed data allowance as it used towers to locate
I agree with your view of reception It wont even ring inside my house whereas the 6120 will work.


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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 20:23

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 20:23
Doesn't use any data getting its fix just like you don't get charged unless you actually make a phone call. The phone is almost always communicating with the towers when it can. GPS info is part of the communication so that the towers know which one of them is best placed to handle the call. The towers can then give the gps part of the phone a head start on where it is. Gives a quicker fix to make up for inferior antenna. The gps charge he is talking about is something like Google Maps which download from the network as you go and that can run up big bills. Most of the iphone topo apps work that way. Its a bit of a drama getting the maps on the iphone before you go out. The turn by turn apps have the maps on the phone though so no data needed.
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Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 20:43

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 at 20:43
I run the 7" Chinese GPS & agree with you that the reception is excellent & screen resolution a bit low so can be hard to see in the sun. To address this I've mounted mine off the roof to keep it in shade.
Another option well worth exploring are the HTC touch phones. Brilliant resolution & we found you can similtaniously run topo maps on Oziexplorer with IGO in the background giving you turn by turn instructions. By the sound of it has far superior GPS reception than the iphone too.
Cheers Craig.......
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul F (INT) - Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 18:28

Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 18:28
I have been reading various threads on this and having zero experience in any GPS the letters IGO seem to come up frequently.
Can you please inform me what this means and also where I might be able to "read up" on this program ?? I am thinking it is.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 19:57

Thursday, Nov 25, 2010 at 19:57
IGO is a turn by turn road navigation program similar Tom Tom etc often supplied with many of the cheap GPS units & surprisingly is updated with a pretty accurate road network unlike some others.

IGO
Cheers Craig...............
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Follow Up By: Member - Brenton H (SA) - Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 07:27

Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 07:27
Crackles
"Another option well worth exploring are the HTC touch phones. Brilliant resolution & we found you can similtaniously run topo maps on Oziexplorer with IGO in the background giving you turn by turn instructions. "

Can you give me more info on how you do this. I have a HTC desire (android) but as far as I am aware it doesn't run Ozi or IGO? Be dam handy if it could.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 09:05

Saturday, Nov 27, 2010 at 09:05
Brent from memory the phone my mate brought that ran both mapping systems together was a HTC HD. We used it as the primary GPS for a cross country desert crossing & worked exceptionally well. A quick Google search found some discussion using Ozi on the Desire so it appears possible although I certainly have no tech experience to say how.
Cheers Craig........
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