US Tyre buying

I do mainly road driving and last set I had on a previous 4wd was good for 108,000 km's

Tried the Coopers At and did not like them. Threw knobs and noisy

andy
If you are thinking of buying the Coopers make sure they are Light Truck tyres. Coopers dealers have a habit of undercutting BFG's with an inferior tyre which is not L/T rated. A guy with us on our big trip this year (Centre,Kimberley, 11 weeks) had 7 punctures in his brand new Coopers!!! Another guy had none with his 12 month old L/T rated Coopers. Both were driving Pardo's and all tyres were badged ATR's.

Teege

What was he illiterate?
It’s a simple matter to look at the specs before your buy the tyre.
Regards Dennis

No, not illiterate - a retired university professor who is new to 4 wheel driving. He took advice from club members and asked for Cooper ATR's and that was what he was given. He even told the dealer that he intended to do an extensive trip through the outback and the Kimberley. AND, let me tell you, it took quite a close inspection to find the difference in the tires (as Coopers call them). I have always run BFG's and have never asked the dealer for L/T's - It has never occurred to me that a manufacturer of ATR's would have two different specs. The only question for me has been A/T or M/T.
I once read that experience is the mistakes that we have lived through. I guess that doesn't apply to you.

teege

Hi Teege
I recently inspected Cooper’s tyre specifications.
They list their Light Truck, Passenger Construction, Ply ratings and other very detailed information on all thier tyres.
If the professor purchased his tyres without looking at this information he was ill prepared for the trip. If the professor was new to 4WDriving your club should have been a bit more specific on tyre construction. I travel off the beaten track on my own a fair bit and I look into the details of all equipment before purchase – then I have only myself to blame if something is not up to spec. Yes I have made a lot of mistakes but you have to take responsibility for your own decisions in this life – stop blaming others.
Regards Dennis

By the way; if Cooper’s salesmen are such conmen, why did the 4WD club recommend them, or is it only you who has the inside information?

Oh to be so perfect

No not perfect – I make lots of mistakes – but I wouldn’t put Passenger construction tyres on a 4WD.
Coopers ATR’s come in Passenger, and LT in 6,8 or 10 ply. With your info you can’t compare apples with apples.

Dennis,

As mentioned, the guy is new to 4wd. The only reason you know about tyres is because, as you have said, you travel off the beaten trck a fair bit, and therefore have built up plenty of knowladge on the subject.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that not everyone knows everything on everysubject. Not even you.

Hi Rob.
I wasn’t having a go at the guy who used the wrong tyres on his 4WD.
I was having a go at Teege who said that Cooper’s suppliers pull shonky tricks to flog their tyres.
Regards Dennis

By the way - you sound like my wife.
She calls me a pain the aarse know-it-all

tied them but threw knobs and noisy

Original text from confirmation email:

" Below is the information needed to go to your bank to complete
a bank money wire transfer;

This price is for 6 tires as you requested in your last email.

Total Price: $ 1,525.42 plus any customs, duties and brokerage fees that may be charged when the product enters your country."

And here part of the invoice:

Qty Size and Description Availability Price Each Total Price
6 LT255/85R-16 BFGoodrich Mud-Te
Download Warranty Brochure PDF
In Stock $181.00 $1,086.00
1 BFG Warranty Packet In Stock N/C N/C
1 Tire registration card -retail In Stock N/C N/C

Shipping: $439.42
Order Total Including Shipping: $1,525.42


And the exchange rate was better when I paid a couple of weeks ago.

have fun
gmd

Good one Gmd.

Had time to do any assessment of them yet ?

No I don't have them mounted yet.I wanted to buy another 2 (spares) but this time they quoted $130 shipping each, and I questioned that. Waiting for an answer to that. Maybe they used different tariff for 2 instead 6 .. Have a container coming early next year and might just throw them in then ...
Still with a 130 shipping each its cheaper than here.... this is obscene isn't it ..

Same on the ham gear ... just quoted another HF ham antenna for the trailer and it is less than one third and they don't even have stock here in OZ and you have to wait 8 weeks while you get it shipped from the US in 5-8 days at a fraction of the price. Some say warranty ?? I say buy a decent product and use it right and you do not need warranty. A good product does not need warranty !! Cheap ones do.

have fun
gmd