First 4wd trip need help
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 17:30
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helenb
Hi was just wondering about
coward springs and the
Oodnadatta track my husband and i have 2 months off this is our first 4wd and trip in a 4wd is it too risky in to be making such a trip in early January? are the roads safe enough for inexperienced travellers? have been to
flinders ranges and furthest have been is
farina ruins.
any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks
Reply By: Member - Jeff P (SA) - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 17:59
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 17:59
Early January will be very hot (usually) try 40C+. Roads should be good, usually
well graded gravel type, but the weather this year may mean they are below normal standard, and expect corrugations (lots of them) .
There will not be much traffic that time of year so you would need to be as self sufficient as possible for repairs especially tyres. As for
Coward Springs, the facilities would be available but there will be no-one there that time of year. We were there last week and no-one in attendance, it was also 37C mid afternoon.
In short as you are inexperienced I would advise against the trip that time of year unless you have at least one other vehicle going with you and even then....,.
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Follow Up By: helenb - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 18:08
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 18:08
thanks i thought that would be the case, just bloody unfortunate this is the only time of year we can get off we are stuck as to where to go we would like to see something different other than major cities we love the
camping life style :(
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Follow Up By: long haired nomad - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 19:07
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 19:07
As the other people have said it will be hot. BUT, if your 4WD is a good and reliable one then go ahead and do it. Don't be afraid to have a go. Just let someone know of your intentions. The only thing to worry about would be the weather. I dont mean the heat but the rain. 2 years ago i drove the
Great Central Road between christmas and new year. It was
well over 40 degrees. I travelled it alone as none of my mates are interested and i was in a 1996 Hilux with just under 350,000km on it. I didnt see another traveler only the local people.
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Reply By: Stevesub1 - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 18:00
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 18:00
HOT HOT HOT in January, need I say more.
Stevesub
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 20:05
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 20:05
i woud perhaps mention where you are leaving from and what exactly you want to do and the many and vastly experianced people on here will suggest an itenery that will suit your needs and more inportantally your 4wd experiance ..... i.e. are you towing, what gear do you have, do you have communications (essential for that time of the year) ..
As for that time of the year, HOT, HOTTER AND EVEN HOTTER and if you assume the car is aircond then it will break down and turn the trip into hell, and there is rain and storms and
well i could go on ....... only Bear Gryliss, Chuck Norris and Mc Gyver are out there at that time of the year, thats only 3 people to help you out ....
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 22:39
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 22:39
You'd be surprised to learn then that alot of overseas backpackers travel the
Oodnadatta track over the summer, often in their old 2wd vans. Despite the heat the owners of the
William Creek Hotel said there is a steady stream of travellers passing through all year.
If suitably equipped, the vehicle
well prepared & you don't mind the heat then there is no reason not to do a major outback route like this.
Cheers Craig..........
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 20:35
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 20:35
I've always thought it works like this - there are people who live and work in that region who know how to travel safely in the harsh summer heat. People without that knowledge or experience are best advised to stay away in the summer (this group includes me :-o). Bottom line ? If you can't maintain your health during a vehicle breakdown in the middle of a very hot summer (no air conditioner - no shade - extreme temperature)...........
well......... you get the idea. Oh...... as I was reminded the other day.......
Oodnadatta has the record of Australia's highest ever official temperature reading (no wonder the roadhouse is pink)...... and it's just up the road from
Coward Springs :-o).
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Reply By: Member - peter f (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 22:03
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 22:03
OOdnadatta trk .
is by name only , its a big wide gravel road . most times you can drive the family car on it . this year it will be rougher than normal because of the ext weather , yes it will be hot , make sure ya vehicle is
well maintained .there are plenty of
services available . Maree .
Lyndhurst ,
camping at
coward springs is
excellent . William crk ,
Oodnadatta . its not the big adventure you might think .
mechpete
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce T (SA) - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 22:15
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 22:15
Peter F,
Having travelled it frequently I would not like to drive the family car on it; too much care would be needed to avoid damage to the car and the wonder of it would be gone. The muffler and exhaust sytem would have lots of dents.
Sure, you could drive the family car IF the road had been graded.
Bruce and Di
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Reply By: Fab72 - Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 22:19
Sunday, Dec 05, 2010 at 22:19
Hello Helen,
I understand your predicament totally. Don't want to waste the time off and want to try out the new bus. The trip in itself is not a difficult one, and infact, I did the same trip back in 2004 in a Statesman of all cars.
I see a couple of options here.... maybe post where you intend to leave from. There may be others on here heading out that way that could travel with you or just keep check on your progress.
Secondly...how mechanically minded are you and/or hubby? I've been out that way a few times in the middle of Jan, and the heat can play havoc with your tyres. Blow outs are frequent so allow plenty of time to be able to travel at a lower speed thus reducing heat build up in your tyres.
Check in at local police stations and notify them of your intentions and when you can be expected to arrive at the other end.
Carry as much
water as humanly possible. Take an easy to erect shade shelter. Good communications are a must...hire a Satelite phone. Standard mobile, UHF, SSB or 27mhz set are NOT considered reliable enough in a life threatening situation.
Talk to the locals at every opportunity and get some first hand knowledge of what lays ahead.
IF YOU BREAK DOWN STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE (this is in capitals for a good reason).
Drive to the conditions and not to a schedule. Take your time and enjoy the arid lands.
With careful planning any trip is possible.....
Fab.
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Reply By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 11:25
Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 11:25
Hi Helen,
You may find this thread interesting reading:
Summer Dangers
The video links in followup 1 to reply 4 are worth watching and detail how you can get into trouble very easily, even close to a capital city.
It willbe hot but your trip is achievable - if you are prepared.
Regards
Pete
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Follow Up By: Pushy - Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 15:07
Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 15:07
Pete,
I think the full story about that accident including the coroners report is somewhere on the
Lake Eyre Yacht Club site.
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 16:04
Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 16:04
Wasn't it also the case that they had failed to engage the front locking hubs? For some reason, I'm thinking that was also part of the findings.
Fab.
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 17:39
Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 17:39
The hubs were in - they had bogged both front and back
wheels.
Pete
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 19:56
Monday, Dec 06, 2010 at 19:56
OK...thanks Pete.
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