Caravan electrical installation regs

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 17:13
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Anyone know if the relevant Australian/Victorian regulations (or a simplified version) are available online? I'm happy to get a sparkie to do the work and give me a bit of paper but I'd like to choose the components and do the prep myself.

I'm particularly interested to know whether I can mount the inlet under the van or on the drawbar as I don't want it in the side.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 17:59

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 17:59
THere was a big thread on the C&M forum a few months ago and a lot of quoting of regs went on.

Perhaps a search on there will turn it up for you.


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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 18:29

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 18:29
A Google seach would have revealed this


http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/pdfs/personal_transport/light_vehicles_pdfs/Info28.pdf

or even this

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb1/vsb_01_b.aspx


By entering "Australian electrical regs for caravans"

Lots more as well


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Reply By: Dunaruna - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 18:57

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 18:57
The complete regs document is not available for free but it is available to purchase (online). What you need is AS/NZS3000.

There is a minimum height for the inlet socket, under the van or the drawbar is too low.
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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 19:12

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 19:12
It’s a 250volt circuit - leave it alone – amateur sparkies are dangerous.
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Reply By: Rockape - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:14

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:14
The inlet can't be mounted below 300mm from the ground.

I believe you would be making a mountain of work for yourself if you are going to run the cabling yourself and also a heap more work for the sparkie.

The inlet would need adequate mechanical protection.

The cable would also have to be protected/ saddled and all holes it runs through bushed.

Where the cable enters the van you would need to seal the hole.

Most inlets are mounted right behind the switchboard which then reduces the cable needed and the chance of drilling into the cable.

Have a good one
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 16:01

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 16:01
This may be so in the regs but in real life the wiring of most vans is ad hock as most van repairers can tell you.

Look here if you need this proof.....

Blimey.


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Follow Up By: Rockape - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:35

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:35
Dodger,
thanks for that I think, I just thought the gentleman asked a question about height so I gave an answer.

At least I will know how to grow mushrooms in my van now but I don't think it will help the gentleman with his wiring enquiry. Maybe you could help him out by giving him an answer.
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:38

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:38
Wortgames,
I should have added that a low or front mounted electrical socket would hve to have a pretty good waterproof rating.

Have a good one
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Follow Up By: Allan B, Sunshine Coast, - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:57

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:57
Rockape, Dodger's link was not to draw attention to mushrooms! If you scrolled down the link you would come to examples of extremely poor wiring in caravans.

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Follow Up By: Rockape - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 18:40

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 18:40
Allen,
I saw that, the reason I replied was the answer from Dodger was a follow up to my post, if someone wishes to bring attention to shoddy van wiring, I wish they would post it to the person who asked the question.

The original post was about whether an inlet could be mounted down low or on a drawbar which I answered to the best of my ability.
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Follow Up By: Allan B, Sunshine Coast, - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 18:56

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 18:56
Sorry mate, from your response I thought you had not seen what dodger was drawing attention to.



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Follow Up By: Rockape - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 19:37

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 19:37
Allen, all is well and I didn't take offence at all.

Have a good one and hope you dry out down there soon.
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Reply By: Allan B, Sunshine Coast, - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:53

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:53
Wortgames,

1. Why don't you want the inlet socket conventionally on the side?

2. Don't fool with it. Leave electrical work to a qualified electrician. If you need to ask questions about 230v electrics then you are not capable of touching it.

3. The applicable standard is AS/NZS 3001 which is available only by purchase for about $100 but it is not a handbook for the uninitiated. It is a set of rules for qualified tradesmen.

Sorry mate but the price is too high!



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Reply By: Member - Bill S (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 22:29

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 22:29
Hi wortgames,

Look-up SAI GLOBAL on the intergooglenet if you wish to purchase a copy of AS/NZS 3001 but as mentioned previously if you're not in the trade it will be pretty confusing to read.

My advice is to get hold of a sparky who is familiar with caravan work to advise you.

Technically speaking a caravan is an appliance because it is connected by an extension lead to a socket so an electrician can only provide a certificate of compliance, which is different from a certificate of electrical safety, which states any electrical work done complies with current standard.

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Reply By: wortgames - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 00:10

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 00:10
Thanks for all the replies. The van is a 1950's aluminium affair, not dissimilar to an Airstream, and quite simply I don't want lumps of plastic sticking out of the side. That leaves me with finding a metal inlet or mounting a plastic one out of sight.

I'm not sure how wanting to understand the regulations and take some control over the installation renders me a bumbling amateur.
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Follow Up By: Allan B, Sunshine Coast, - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 00:47

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 00:47
Wort, No-one says your'e a "bumbling amateur" mate. Instruct the sparkie but keep your hands off the 230v ..."choose the components and do the prep myself."??...

I understand your desire to avoid "lumps of plastic sticking out of the side" and this can be achieved within the regulations by enclosing the inlet socket within an enclosure in the appropriate position. This enclosure could have a top-hinged door which is flush with the van wall and of the same material. As an alternative it is allowable to dispense with the inlet socket altogether and supply the van via a flexible cable permanently connected within a similar enclosure. This enclosure would need to be large enough to accommodate the required length of cable of course, but eliminating the inlet socket is not a bad way of doing it in my opinion.

Hope this may be of some help to you mate. Good luck with the job.



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