single parent wanting to travel with special needs kids

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Hi ,
nice to read you all. I'm a single parent wanting to take my two kids 5 and 10 around oz for the best education I can can give them as they don't fit into the "public school system". After reading ALOT of the forums and blogs, I'm very interested in reading about anyone's experience with traveling with kids and any whom have done the traveling and what type especially with an Aspie. If this is the wrong place to seek such advice then also would appreciate someone directing me to the right website.
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Reply By: Member - MYPRADO - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:20

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:20
Good on you i was a single father with 4 kids, 5 and upwards in age and every school holiday i went to the sapphire fields in Qld with tent and gear, they loved going. We traveled to Vic and Nsw and landed up in WA . I used the internet to look up sites i was visiting, never be scared to go out there, you will be surprised at the help you get in Towns.
Cheers Mario.
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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:03

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:03
Thanks Mario,
it's great to know that although Australia is huge there's a great helpful supportive traveling community out there. Very encouraging to hear.
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:31

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:31
i dont think this is the "wrong" place at all, we are all just "travellin" i guess....
I find your comment about the kids not fitting into the public school system interesting and did have a read up on "Aspie" ....
Couple of questions... older or younger with "Aspie" or both???
Do you plan on working around or just travelling
Are you going to travel to maybe find someware that suits and possibly stay, dont be afraid to admit it as that is exactly what we are doing (for the last 10 years) with 3 kids now, 3,7,9 ..... still looking
With kids the "travelling" is just a tiny wee part of the journey, it is where and how long you stop for that is the big factor, it can totally change a kid if you get it right as we can relate to your "fitting in" problem ...
Cheers, Joe, Mel n kids
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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:16

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:16
Hi Joe, Mel & kids,
the younger is the aspie and the older has Auditory Processing Disorder. The school has suspected it since grade 3 but neglected to tell me. 6 weeks ago she tried to take her own life. Lots of therapy, testing etc. and here we are about to homeschool as it seems to be the option for her. I have my little girl back. Being over the "school system" here in QLD, we have decided to travel and see where we end up. Beats sitting around in a house learning on paper when both my kids are visual learners.

Aspie's are unique wonderful human beings that tell it how it is and have many quirks and sensitivities. Traveling with him can be a nightmare on long trips hence my question to any one whom may have done the trip with one. As to camping versus caravan versus Motorhome, what was their experience.

I figure giving them the freedom to be "who they are" should help me to relax alittle and enjoy the journey too, hopefully without too much hard work or hassles on my own.

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Sam Jess & Jem
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 18:36

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 18:36
i can see why you want to get "out" and i know exactly where you are coming from ................
Have you ever been away for any period of time with the kids, camping or staying in accom ???? will you be looking for work ..
Where do you live if i can ask, south qld or north .....
Are you prepaired for it financially, in saying that i dont want to scare you off as you can get "out" of it all with enough for the fuel and food to the next stop if you need to.... million dollars wont fix a kids, the right environment will as you now are thinking along with eh...
one thing i can say is that the smaller the school the more personal the care is, we have had the kids in schools at all the remote communitys we have been to, thought about other options, they are far better than bigger schools, kids are far more tolerent and understanding and will make certain other kids fit in, the what we call "local" kids, or aboriginal as some say, they are exceptionally more accepting of kids that arnt doing well at school, as or kids were, most dont have all the fancy toys and crap that city kids have and the "groupy" culture does not exist, our kids have not worn shoes for years to school and we try to make them at home, yeh right .......
I dont know what real advice i can give you other than to be careful and do EVERYTHING with the kids in mind, we have been to some places where the kids hated it and 4 months and we moved (1000ks) away, we now are at Doomadgee and it was supposed to be a "short" stay to help fix up a bussiness and continue to work up in the Cape, our kids are doing so well that we are starting to think we may be here for years, both kids have completely changed and it makes our life so much better now ...... guess one thing is to constantly have the "whatif's" look around and be prepaired for the worst just in case.... cheers joe
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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Monday, Dec 13, 2010 at 08:39

Monday, Dec 13, 2010 at 08:39
Hi Joe,
we live in Sth qld. We have traveled at times and as long as I don't push it I can survive the trip with most of my sanity (what's left of it) anyway.
We are prepared financially and we can't plan too much any way, we will just take each day as it comes and end up who knows where, just depends on the seasons when we set off.
I've settled on a motor home, best option for me as it's the least amount of work. If we find somewhere to explore of the beaten track then it's somewhere we can come back to when he's older and can handle more.

Sounds like you have found the magic formula for kids and we hope to find our magic too.

Cheers
Sam
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Reply By: Member - Bruce T (SA) - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:33

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:33
Hi Sammi&jj,

The very first thing you have to realise that in Oz there is not too much that is compulsory but sending your kids to school is. If you don't, expect to be hassled. Apply for Home Schooling and go from there. An Aspergers shouln't make ahuge difference in schooling and if they are verified they would get support from the relevant Education Department at a State School.

What State do you live in? Google that State's Education department and you should then be able to find out what you want to know.

I'm a retired SA Principal and I know how much we tried to assist Asperger kids. I've taught them and loved the challenge and getting them to 'cope' with school.

Email me direct if you want.

Di
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Follow Up By: Rosss- Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 00:12

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 00:12
WELL through experience I can tell you, you will get no help from the Queensland Education department if your child does not quite fit in, until you threaton legal action through duty of care and then all they want to do is get rid of your child out of the school.

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:18

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:18
Compulsory ? You don't need much of an excuse to not go to school in Qld , any half baked religion will get you an exemption , home schooling , distance ed , etc.
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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:21

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:21
Hi Di,
SA ed sounds great, might be an option to look into when we get there. So very over QLD ed system. Very much behind the rest of the country, I really have an empathy for the poor teachers and wish them well in trying to catch up.

We will homeschool as we go along and all we can do is our best and if it's not good enough for anyone then they'll have to "build a bridge and get over it" . Life really is too short for red tape.

Thanks for your advice Di
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Reply By: On Patrol & TONI - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:33

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:33
Hi Sammi&jj
while I cannot comment or advise regarding your particular needs, I do applaud you in your attempt to carry this out.

I agree with Mario's comment that you will get a plethora of help on the road if you are open to other travellers advice and help & that also applies to local folk equally. Australia is full of wonderful Australians.

Just do it, you may always regret not doing it.

Good luck, Colin.
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Follow Up By: AJB - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:47

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 21:47
Very true last line there Colin. When it is time to check out, it is better to regret a some things that you've done rather than a some things you didn't do.

Sammi and JJ, some times you'll think "What am I doing" but the rest of the time you'll think "How good is this, this is how life is meant to be". Go for it. Complete another chapter in life. The experience will be extremely rewarding, educational and life changing.

AB
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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:31

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:31
Hi Colin,

thanks very much for your encouragement. I have no regrets in my life and certainly won't let my kids special needs be a deterrent to such a wonderful experience for us all. It certainly sounds like there's heaps of help out there if I ever get stuck or need advice so I'm not really alone.


Hi AB,

Most days I think "What am I doing" so being on the road will be a refreshing change from the humdrum of being in one place and the added bonus of no lawns to mow. That in it's self is life changing for me. hehehe

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Reply By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 23:20

Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 at 23:20
Hi Sammi & JJ

Good on you for being prepared to travel with the kids. MY wife and I care for our niece, 17 year old now, and we have had her sionce she was 11 days old. She is a Downs child, and believe me, the rewards far outweigh the work. That girl has travelled with us everywhere, and was schooled by me, I do not have any educational qualifications, just a science degree and a trade.

She learned to count when travelling, by having specific animals (kangaroos for example) pointed out, and she loved counting them. The Principal who posted was semi correct, you can home school with support, and there is nothing wrong with school by correspondence, or these days email, if you need to.

My youngest daughter, who lives with us with her children, has just completed a BA in Social Work, fully externally. Years ago you had to attend school, but these days there are simply too many options available.

I know nothing about the medical; condition in your family, but you know what I mean when I say there is no such thing as a disability. Where a child is less able in one area, they are more able in another area.

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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:41

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:41
Hi Marc,

the traveling you have done with your Niece, was it camping, caravan or motor home. That's what I'm trying to weigh up the pros and cons of each versus 1 adult to do all the setting up required for each option and then the limited access some options have to more remote places and all the different equipment each option requires also.

How old was your niece when you first stared travelling?
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:14

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:14
Hi Sammi & JJ

We have always taken our niece when we travel, since she was very, very young, perhaps 7 months old from memory.

We live extrememly remote anyway, geographically about halfway between Broome and Alice Springs, so my niece has always been used to remote area living. Whenever we travel it has been with swags, as the areas we go to you would not get a caravan or trailer into.

In your circumstances, I would highly recomend a motor home, otherwise you will be doing nothing muich more than driving, and setting things up, then taking everything apart. Could you now consider taking a friend with you, or perhaps travelling in conjunction with others, whom would hopefully assist.

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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 13:13

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 13:13
Hi Marc,
traveling with others isn't really an option unless we met others along the way. A motor home was my 1st thought as reading all these forums about all the trouble and modifications etc that lots of people go through, I really don't need all those kinds of experiences (have had enough in life already) and would like the "least amount of hassles" experience that the motor home versus camping and towing a van can offer. So we might have to set up and ride a bike to the shops , & if we have a breakdown stay in other accommodation and miss some of the remote off the beaten track kind of places, this trip, but I think it would be a better option for me being on my own.

Thank you for your recommendation

Cheers
Sam
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 13:58

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 13:58
Hi Sam

As opposed to buying a motor4 homew and doing all the modifications, would it be worth a thought to hire one of those Britz or whatever company camper 4x4's for your trip. It wouldn't cost as much as buying a vehicle, and if problems occur, you can get the vehicle changed for a similar vehicle.

Just a thought

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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 16:35

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 16:35
Hi Marc,
certainly worth the thought .I'll look into costs for long term hire and weigh them up.

Cheers
Sam
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 16:59

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 16:59
Hi Sam

My wife and I have just had a look through a few different hire companies, and we were astonsihed that the off season prices were very reasonable, as is the pre booking costs when booking ahead.

The best I have seen when travelling around through the CSR and Tanami (which is the area I live in), were the Britz. I have no connection to the company at all, but I was very surprised at how well they are set up.

You wouldn't beed to do any modifications, other than perhaps any special nees, and I reckon the same would be with other companies. Those troopies with the high roof look like perfect for a mum and two little ones.

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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:45

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 17:45
Hi Marc,
it's great idea if you know how long you want to be away for and where you want to travel to. As we are just going to set off as soon as our house sells, and not sure (depending on the weather) as to which way we turn (left or right out of our driveway) and how long we are going for, it's not really a cheap alternative for us.
Thanks for the thought and option though. It might help out someone else reading this thread.

Cheers
Sam
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Reply By: Inish - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 02:39

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 02:39
Hi Sammi and JJ,

Wish you well in your planning and say if you can just go for it.

I also am a single parent and my children are older now - late teens - but unfortunately was prevented from travelling by court order when they were young so hope you have an agreeable situation with their other parent.

One thing that you would probably find with your aspie is they often don't cope well with change so perhaps moving a little slower with lots of scaffolding for the aspie child so they know what the timetable is can help relieve anxiety. Found this increased in my child so go soon as when they get to be teenagers they can become anti plans for change.

Wishing you well
Sharna

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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:48

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 09:48
Hi Sharna,


we are free as birds (thankfully so). One reason for the travel is to also teach my aspie that life is flexible and to help him to cope with constant change.

Che Sera Sera. That's my life's motto.

Cheers
Sam
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Reply By: Outbackogre - Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 21:40

Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 21:40
Hi Sam, our 11 yo daughter has an Autism Spectrum Disorder. We are fortunate in Victoria to have access to a good special school. Nevertheless, we've travelled widely with her (Cape York, Fraser Is, central oz) and every holiday is under canvas (camper trailer). We love it and so does she (especially if there's a swimming pool or swing at the end of the days drive). During long service leave next year we hope to travel to the Kimberley. We find fellow travellers are very tolerant of our daughter and caring toward us as a family. I'll never forget the older couple in a Cairns caravan park back in 06 who were so touched by my wife's care of our daughter that they gave us some recovery gear that they claimed was surplus to their needs. Best wishes for your travels. Rob.
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Follow Up By: Sammi&jj - Monday, Dec 13, 2010 at 08:28

Monday, Dec 13, 2010 at 08:28
Hi Rob,

thanks for your reply. Yes I figure if there's some sort of reward at the end of the drive then he'll cope pretty well. That has been another worry about how tolerant other travelers will be if he has a meltdown. I guess all I can do is give it a go and see how we fare.

Thanks
Sam
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