Removing tight spark plugs

Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 19:58
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Hi guy's I have very tight spark plugs in me Paj they are tight to loosen but spin back up resonably easy.

Trying the loosen a bit then spraying with lube and waiting a few days and doing again but is there an easier and quicker way.

Really don't wan't to bust one of in the head.
Cheers
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Reply By: Dunaruna - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:43

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:43
You need to run a thread chaser down the hole, it will cleanup the thread.
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Follow Up By: Roughasguts - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:49

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:49
He he yeah i intend to do that. But first I have to get the old ones out! like I said there very tight and will move but the resistance never lets up almost to the point of breaking in the head I suspect. Still yet to get one out.

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: dbish - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:11

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:11
Had the same prob with the Ford recently, the plug finished up stuffiing the thread. Purchased a Helicoil kit for $95 & repaired the thread. Theres 10 of 3 diferent length threads in the kit.
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Follow Up By: Roughasguts - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:20

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:20
Thanks dbish, might have to do that yet.
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Follow Up By: dbish - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:38

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:38
If you do have to use a helicoil & do the job with the head still in place. Pack the flutes on the Tap with grease to catch the aluminiumn chips, only doing a few turns then remove clean & regrease & do a few more turns & repeat untill new thread is cut, then fit the stainless steel thread. Daryl
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Follow Up By: Roughasguts - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:49

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:49
Cheers Daryl.
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Reply By: Eric Experience - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:55

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:55
Get a can of freeze out from a bolt shop. Then with the motor hot freeze one plug and loosen one turn then run the motor to get it hot again then repeat on the next plug ETC . Eric.
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Follow Up By: Drew - Karratha - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:29

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:29
I bought a can of this a while back when they were doing a marketing campaign for it on tv - thought it would be good for quickly cooling beer by spraying it directly onto the can - that way I could keep a few warm ones in the car. Didnt work....
It is probably better for removing stuck bolts.....
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Follow Up By: Roughasguts - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:29

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:29
Could be a plan looking for easy and no breakages.

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: BrownyGU - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:40

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:40
Drew......


Gold Mate Gold...........Now thats Aussie intuition!!!





Cheers.........Browny
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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:08

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:08
Hi. I had a similar experience in my workshop recently with a Mazda v6. There is no easy way and what you are doing seems to be about the best way. The alloy head material "picks up" on the spark plug thread and tears it away from the threaded plug hole. It is better to keep going in the one direction if you can otherwise it can tear the thread worse from reversing it. It took me 90mins to get 4 tight ones out and I thought one would break for sure but with carefull perseverence I was successful. Had sore shoulders the next day though. Carefully run a 14mm x 1.25mm tap down the threads afterwards and if they are OK put a bit of neversieze on the new plugs. Regards, Bob.

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Follow Up By: Member - Barry (NT) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:17

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:17
Be careful with never sieve - if it's what I think it is you could have galvanic action with steel plug, copper neversieze and alloy head UNLESS the head has stainless steel insert for plug thread.

Also if the threads are a mess maybe use a stainless insert thread,, forget the name ahhhhh,,,

someone will know,,, you tap em out and insert stainless "thread"

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Follow Up By: Roughasguts - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:32

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:32
Thanks mate at least no breakages that's what I'm afraid off.
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:40

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 21:40
a tip for those reading this, if you do your own plugs make up a tool to insert them safely without any risk of crossthreading.........
Get the rubber boot off the end of a plug lead, make certain it is a tight fit on the plug, get an old screwdriver and cut about 1/2 an inch back from the tip, place the plug boot over the end of the screwdriver shaft with room for the plug to insert fully in over the porcelian bit, get 2-3 small cable ties and fasten the boot to the screwdriver shaft, i then placed some heatshrink over it all to contain it all ...................
When you remove the old plugs, i always did it hot, let the plug fall out of the socket in the hole that is fine, use the "plug driver" to slide over the head and out they come, never get burnt by hot plugs again.....
Get the new plug and place firmly in the rubber boot of "plug driver", ALWAYS wet with some oil on the thread, never use grease or anything else, just plain oil as you use in the motor, use "plug driver" to insert in recess and trun clockwise until you feel the plug bottom out on the thread, you will never ever again get it crossthreaded and will find it heaps easeir to get it in line to start the thread ...............
Sorry but my only advice on getting them out is do it with the motor hot not cold, if plug is recessed as most are pour oil in the recess (heaps, make certain it is clean) and very gently rock it back and forth, may take 1/2 an hour for each plug but it will work....
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Follow Up By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:05

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:05
WORD OF WARNING, NEVER DO THE LATEST VEHICLES HOT!!!

reason being you can very easily stuff the threads.

if you own a late model car, ask your mechanic to change your plugs at every 50 thou, or put anti seize from permatex on....
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 06:13

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 06:13
Hi Joe. I cut off a piece of straight 3/8 fuel hose about 6" long. Slips over the porcellin tight enough to turn the plug and screw into the thread. Great for the deep centre mounted plugs and slips off once the plug is screwed in. Regards,Bob

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Reply By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 00:36

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 00:36
For stuck bolts and especially when rusted in or from a galvanic reaction I have had success with 'Penetrene'.

Just a dribble around the bolt or sparkplug in this case and leave for a day and see how it goes.

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Reply By: Roughasguts - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 13:11

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 13:11
Thanks for all your ideas guy's it will have to wait for a while can't afford to be with out two cars at the moment if I bust a plug in the head! (no time to fix it).

So in the meantime will just make a turn and lube the threads.

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Ted G - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 14:41

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 14:41
Try a product called YIELD from Chemsearch give it a spray and let it soak in then repeat a couple of times.
Yield will shift anything that is corroded or tight in a thread.
Have used it for years and have not found anything better.
Should be able to get it from industrial suppliers.
Don't be put off by the cost, it used to be about $25 a single can.
Regards
Ted
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Reply By: Roughasguts - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 15:17

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 15:17
Cool thanks Ted, never put off by a price.
If it saves me time, (and skun knuckles) thats money to me.

Never tried yeild but have heard good reports will have to ring around to find it I guess. Any one know where I can get it?

Cheers
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