Maryvale Road/Hugh River Stock Route

Submitted: Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 16:59
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Hi - I wonder if anyone has ever driven this Road/Route from either Ghan Heritage Trail end to Stuart Highway or vice versa.

1. I know nobody can advise/tell me what the route will be like when I go in May/June next year but I just wondered if anybody would give a general view of it's difficulty for a 4x4 with appropriate tyre pressures especially when crossing the river beds.
2. Is it possible to traverse northwards off the Maryvale Road/Hugh River Stock Route northwards to get to Rainbow Valley. I can't see a way through on Google Earth.
[I realise the access road to Rainbow Valley turs eastward further north along Stuart Highway-I just wondered if anybody knows a way northwards into the Rainbow Valley from Maryvale Road.]

Thanks in advance.

George
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Reply By: Hairy (WA) - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 17:09

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 17:09
Gday,
There is a track that leads East from Rainbow Valley to the railway line, then South down the line to Idracowra Station (crossing the Maryvale road). Ive been that way as a short cut to Chambers Pillar.
Saying that...........you travel through Aboriginal Land/ Railway corridor/ and private property so you should get permission.

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Follow Up By: bluefly - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 17:32

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 17:32
Hairy

Last time I spoke to the girl at Idracowra Station (Judith?), she said access was closed and the property was being sold. That was a few years ago around 2007, so things could have changed.

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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 17:37

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 17:37
I should have added the track from Rainbow to the line starts from the Rainbow entrance gate and goes along the Northern boundary.

Bluefly,
Your right....they never did like people taking that track but it may have changed.

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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 17:47

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 17:47
Hi George,

We travelled this road mid 09 with no problems at all - its a good condition gravel road. Though after this years rain the creek crossings may be a bit more washed out. We looked for a track to get us into Rainbow Valley - there did seem to be a track leading off from the railway crossing but the signs were a definite deterrent so we did not try it.

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Follow Up By: AdlelaideGeorge - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 19:33

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 19:33
Hi Val - thanks for that. I have found that track on Google Earth - of course I can't see any 'signs' from my Google vantage point. I imagine it's "Keep Out - Tresspasser Shot" that sort of thing so I'll look carefully when I pass it.

There does also appear to be a vague track off northward through a 'gap' in the range along the Maryvale road - it seems to exit the range about where the visitor centre appears to be (on the ground) in the Ranibow Valley Conservation park.......may have at look at that as an alternative to getting "shot" by going the other way......ha ha

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Follow Up By: AdlelaideGeorge - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 19:57

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 19:57
PS - I've tried to find a contact email/fax/phone for Idracowra Station without any luck - wonder if thre's a email/fax/phone on the sign?
Appears to have sold for over $7m in 2007 - wonder where the money came from......?
George
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 20:02

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 20:02
JRoad is good. Just take care not to get lost as you cross the railway line.... :-)Cheers,
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 09:17

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 09:17
Hi George

Providing that the area has not been wet, all those tourist roads are usually in good condition and you should have no problems at all. The Hugh River Stock Route is a good drive and well signposted from the Maryvale Road.

If coming up from Finke, then go to Chamber Pillar first, then head noth to Alice Springs. You will then come to the Hugh River Stock Route Road, then follow that. To keep the peace with the Station people, do the right thing and head for the Stuart Highway and then go into Rainbow Valley from there, the extra distance will not take that more time, and all above board.

While you are right in the area, have to thought of doing the Owen Springs Road as well, as it is well worth the drive seeing you will be driving straight past?

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Follow Up By: AdlelaideGeorge - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:48

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:48
Thanks for taking the time to upload the pics Stephen. I imagine the turn off west of the Stuart Hwy to Owen Springs is by the Correctional Centre - or at least somewhere along that stretch. I expect we could eventually find our way to the Alice via Larapinta Drive if we took the route through Owen Springs

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Follow Up By: AdlelaideGeorge - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 13:25

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 13:25
The track to Owen Springs appears to go through a creek bed (traversing the Watervale Range?) and it looks great from the air.-that's south of Old Owen Springs.
Did you go that wayStephen? What did you think of that secton?

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 19:04

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 19:04
Hi George

When we did the Own Springs Drive, we did it from the north and headed south.
There were a number of good spots along the way that would have made good camping spots. Again the track when dry was a very easy drive and a good alternative to get off of the bitumen and to get to Alice Springs.

Here is a screen dump of the Hema Red Centre Map and the areas that you wish to travel.

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 19:10

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 19:10
George,
Like Stephen, we've enjoyed the Owen Springs track. We often call in to Redbank Waterhole because its only 6km off the Highway and is an easy 2 days drive from adelaide. And we get a nice bush camp instead of an Alice Springs Caravan Park!
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:03

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:03
The back road into Rainbow Valley is on private property, with warning signs to tell you to keep out. It follows the railway line north for about 7ks then cross the line and head west to Rainbow Valley. I went that way 8 years ago when there were no signposts from the eastern end. Did the Hugh River Stock Route again this year - easy drive.

There is a nice waterhole just to the west of the railway line crossing.
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Follow Up By: AdlelaideGeorge - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:36

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:36
Hi Phil - I imagine that waterhole is just west of the new Ghan railway line crossing on the Hugh River Stock Route?

Thanks for that

George
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 19:05

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 19:05
Yes thats it. We arrived there for morning tea and stayed the night! But there had been a fair bit of recent rain. But lots of birdlife and fish in the waterhole. magic spot.
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Reply By: AdlelaideGeorge - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 15:29

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 15:29
Hi each

Thanks very much for the comments/help - I've got all that in the Garmin now-we'll take the Owen Springs route into Alice then back to Finke taking side trips off down Huge River Stock Route and Chambers Pillar - will leave Rainbow Valley for anothe time.

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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 21:10

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010 at 21:10
Hi George

We returned from Chambers Pillar via the Hugh Stock Road in 2008, with our caravan. No problems, just needed to be aware and slow down for some creekline dips (a bit washed out) on the least maintained section, but really an easy drive. The track into Chambers Pillar was the worst road of the drives; sandy patches not far from Maryvale Station, and some sections further in rather corrugated.

We understood access to Rainbow Valley was from the Stuart Highway only. I saw no evidence of tacks approaching this colourful feature from any other direction when there.

We took the Owen Springs drive without our caravan, and were glad, as the sand crossing the river bed would have been hard going.

The Henbury Meteorite impact craters not far along the Ernest Giles Road may also be of interest to you.

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