My Very Own Camp Ground????

Submitted: Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 21:17
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Hi all
I just returned from a 12 month trip around OZ with my wife and 3 kids. We loved it and some of the best times were had at camp grounds which were either free or charged a nominal fee.

What I am wondering is could I set up a campground near the creek on my 8 acres just north of Samford, about 20km from Brisbane CBD. I reacon I could fit 10 to 15 vans comfortably.

Could this work if I didn't provide toilets or showers and said it was for self contained vans/motorhomes only?

Would anyone be interested in using it?

What would be a fair price to charge if I was to do it?

Although I would need to charge a fee, my main motivation would be to meet some more of the awesome people we encountered on our trip.


Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 21:43

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 21:43
We owned a Motel and the land tax, insurance and all the council fees were enough to make you cry.

Probably you would have to licence it and conform and pay tax and all the assorted things that go with dealing with the public.

Would it be worth the trouble.

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Reply By: Farmboywa - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 22:08

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 22:08
G'day happycattle2000, I have toyed with this idea for my few acres which is in an area where near coastal parks are being redeveloped into resorts or if not in the path of progress are occupied mainly by permanent residents. Some local councils are providing free shortstay areas with dump points for self contained vans and motorhomes. I think your idea is the future for self contained units wanting stays of more than 3 days. I would be very interested to hear about the response from your local council when you run the idea past their planners. I think having organised groups as your custom would be a lot less trouble than having to deal with yobbos who may take a long term liking to your creekbank and prove difficult to move on.
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Reply By: Member - Porl - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 22:38

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 22:38
Hi

I live in brisbane, i would go there, I work for a very large city council.

But I don't work in planning and licensing.

How i see it, your biggest costs would be, as above, insurance and council fees for a commercial operation.

However, if you invited people only and they took out everything they took in and the consideration to you was not on a commercial basis, ie shake of a fat hand (not giving taxation advice here), you could get away with it on a domestic scale.

Once you started wanting to claim the input tax credits and depreciate the assets to offset the profit, then of course you are into council licensing and insurance and land tax on a commercial scale etc etc.

So, it comes down to how big do you want it to be, if you want it to be big, talk to your accountant.

You want to it be local, it might containable within the domestic category. Though you would want your insurance up to $10m claims for invitees.
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 07:11

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 07:11
Besides Local Govt requirements, Public Risk Insurance would be a killer, with our plumbing business we pay mega bucks for a $20m x $20m cover, if you haven't got it and something goes pare shape you will lose every thing.
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Reply By: Member - Brian R (WA) - Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 23:22

Monday, Dec 27, 2010 at 23:22
Hi
Glad you enjoyed the trip.
Your idea is great, before you appproach councils and other authorities,...I would suggest you talk to the folks in the bush that are doing this ....on their cattle station ans so on.
My experience says that authorities present you with barriers
Brian
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Follow Up By: Road Warrior - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 16:46

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 16:46
What Brian said. There would need to be a special dispensation provided by the local Shire to run something like this on a privately owned property zoned for rural or hobby farm use. Ask 'em first, because from memory the penalties for being caught doing it without planning and public health approval are pretty catastrophic.
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Reply By: cycadcenter - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 03:17

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 03:17
As soon as any $$$ change hands it becomes a commercial enterprise and the local council and Queen Anna will want to regulate it, license it, inspect it, collect fees and Tax it.

Bruce
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Reply By: makintraks - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 08:27

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 08:27
Hi, my family and I are in the process of planning our 1 year lap around the country and would be interested to know what set up you used to do it in. We only have 2 kids, 9 and 10 and are thinking of an off road caravan, did you have a van? off road or normal. if off road did you use it off road very often? we want to free camp as much as possible and have been told that there are lots of spectacular places to free camp but you need an off road van to get to them, interested in hearing anything you could share. Sorry, no advise on the park idea but sounds like a great lifestyle choice.

Hado
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Follow Up By: Mark Howlett - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:48

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:48
Hi Hado,

We did the trip for 6 months and wanted to share it with others, so we did a website.

Our website

There's a fair bit there but hopefully something you can use.

Cheers,

Mark.
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 17:53

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 17:53
Hi mark,
That's a very good site you've put together there.
A lot of very useful information.
Cheers for sharing.

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Follow Up By: happycattle2000 - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 21:50

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 21:50
Haydo, I would love to have a chat to help you with your plans. email me davidkeevers@ymail.com

cheers
dave
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Follow Up By: zenonie - Saturday, Jan 01, 2011 at 17:52

Saturday, Jan 01, 2011 at 17:52
Hi Hado, I hope you enjoy your trip. I have two tips for you. Try some Station Stays, we stayed at quite a few and enjoyed them all as they are all different and unique. One that we particularlly enjoyed was Kilcowera Station which is a member of Outback Beds. You can check Kilcowera out on their blog "Life on an Outback Queensland Cattle Station".

Also if you are interested in doing a bit of volunteer work on your travels try sites like Helpex and register yourself. You may work for nothing but the inter action with the property owners is wonderful. We made some great friends through Helpex. Cheers zenonie
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Follow Up By: makintraks - Friday, Jan 07, 2011 at 08:40

Friday, Jan 07, 2011 at 08:40
Thanks Zenonie, this is great info, exactly the sort of thing I am wanting to find out before we go, thanks again.
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Reply By: landed eagle - Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 09:02

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 09:02
G'day happycattle.

Friends of my caravanning buddy have just done this in Tassie. Might be worth sending them an email to pick their brains and see if you want to continue with the dream. ( Malcolm and Trudi)

their campground website:

http://www.rivers-edge.com.au/

2 hours and we're heading there. Only 51kms from home.


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Reply By: TrevorDavid- Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 22:28

Tuesday, Dec 28, 2010 at 22:28
Happy, I wonder if you did not charge a fee, but if people had to donate to access this area how you would go.

TDB
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