Flooded crossings .... AGAIN, PLEASE BE EVER SO CAREFUL....
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Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ
The first rains in the north of the state bring one often overlooked factor that we may
well not know about, they bring very fine clay slit down with the water and all crossings may not seem deep but are VERY SLIPPERY and dangerous ..
On Friday afternoon i helped with a guy who slipped on the concrete crossing trying to cross it on foot, no car just walking, he was ever so lucky in that someone else was right there at the time as he would be gone, he was nearly unconscious and took 2-3 mins to come around and was alone ...
The below is from this mornings news:
""""" On Saturday night, two cars trying to cross a flooded causeway were swept into a river in
Burketown, in western Queensland state, police said. A 41-year-old woman travelling in the second car disappeared in the rushing water, and her body was recovered about 1.2
miles (2 kilometers) away on Sunday, Queensland police said in a statement.
Officials say half of Queensland's 715,305 square
miles (1.8 million square kilometers) has been affected by the flooding. """"
On Friday afternoon i helped with a guy who slipped on the concrete crossing trying to cross it on foot, no car just walking, he was ever so lucky in that someone else was right there at the time as he would be gone, he was nearly unconcisce and took 2-3 mins to come around
Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 19:02
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 19:02
Yesterday we had to go and pull a very drowned Hyundai from a very deep crossing on a road that has been closed for nearly 3 weeks.
The crossing is about 2.0m deep at the moment and at it's peak was over 3.5m deep.
He was trying to go the back way from
Jandowae to
Chinchilla but neglected to ask which way was open and just followed the
Chinchilla signs. He went around at least 3
road closed signs to get where he was.
When will they EVER learn.
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 19:58
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 19:58
Hi Kev
Good to see you had them floaties on and you survived the waters okay. Perhaps you could send half of it this way, as goodness knows we need a bit of water in the creeks and dams at the moment.
You take care Kev, and have the best New Year possible.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 20:01
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 20:01
Marc,
Lots of floaties on and there was a heap of locals in boats without PFD's in fast flowing currents. An SES flood boat capsized the Monday before Christmas and it didn't seem to sink in that our SES group had to rescue the crew as
well as the ones the capsized boat was attempting to resuce.
If the rain in the catchment continues like they are predicting I think the area is going to flood a couple more times yet this summer
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:14
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:14
Kev
Okay, you have me baffled, "PFD's" are what exactly.
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Follow Up By: Member - Leon A (SA) - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:23
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:23
Personal Flotation Device Marc, or more commonly known as a lifejacket.
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Follow Up By: rumpig - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:49
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:49
Hey Kev,
how did
Jandowae fair in all the flooding?
i haven't heard it mentioned in the
Brisbane media at all, and i was just wondering wheather or not it had been flooded, as i have friends who have relatives living there. we head out there for the races each year, not the biggest of towns, so can see why it wouldn't rate a mention if the floods did effect it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:44
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:44
Hi Leon
Thanks for the info. I have never been in a boat of any description, so had no idea of what the initials were for.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:46
Monday, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:46
Mal,
I think they were isolated for awhile but no reports of houses getting flooded.
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Follow Up By: rumpig - Monday, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:51
Monday, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:51
Cheers Kev,
Thanks for that info.
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Reply By: Member - Toby R (WA) - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 19:53
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 19:53
This video has probably been posted here before but it seem to be relevant to this post and shows you exactly what not to do. This guy has no idea at all not only does he not care for his own safety but the safety of the child in the passenger
seat or those who would have to rescue him if it all went pear shaped.
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:20
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:20
Hi Toby
He must have thought that he was towing the car with the boat. I have been through deep water, but never that wide, and only in a 4 cyl Hilux. I have frequently crossed
Ivanhoe Crossing top help people, and some of the creeks on the Tanami, but all those crossings I know very, very
well.
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Follow Up By: Flynnie - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:19
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:19
There was a Powerpoint slideshow of this circulating on the internet for the last few years. Photos taken on the
Condamine River on 5.1.2008 according to the slideshow. The slideshow is even more graphic than the video as the extra detail shows more clearly how very close they were to being swept away.
It is about 5 megabytes. Title is something like "When bankers and H2O combine". Replace bankers with a similar sounding Australian colloquialism.
In the slideshow it looks like the side windows are up. They should be down when crossing water. Mythbusters did an excellent show on escape from submerged vehicles. I would say there would have been no chance of survival if they had been washed away. River height was 7.5 metres at that time (according to the slideshow). The vehicle was already water logged and likely would have sunk like a stone. No chance of rescue at all.
I would not be too judgemental about the driver. He made a very bad error of judgement and only narrowly lived to see another day. It seems every flood we see others do the same and die.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toby R (WA) - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:21
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:21
Hi Marc
Im with you i've crossed plenty of deep water but never so wide or fast flowing this guys crazy.
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:33
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 21:33
I understand he was charged with neg driving as a result of that effort , using the film as evidence.
This was about or more than a year ago
Regards Philip A
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Follow Up By: Flynnie - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:32
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:32
Reportedly he was fined $750 and was disqualified from driving for six months.
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:42
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:42
Hi Rangiephil and Flynnie
I do not apologise for my opinion here. According to the text on the photo's, there is a child in the vehicle. He should have been done for child endangerment as
well, fined a lot more, and banned for life.
I have crossed several deep waters, but I have crossed alone, running a rope behind me, and set up a "flying fox" to get any else safely across. If children are involved, I will go back and tie them to me. There is no excuse for putting a child's life at risk.
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Reply By: D200Dug- Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:31
Sunday, Jan 02, 2011 at 23:31
Queensland police have just been instructed to book any person found driving into flood waters.
The charge is "Disobey police instructions" and it is a $2,000 + fine and 6 demerit points lost.
They are sick of having to risk lives rescuing idiots.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:49
Monday, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:49
Why did it take so long to "Instruct" them to do that. Should be the 1st thing they think of if a vehicle goes around a
road closed sign where flooding is invloved.
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Follow Up By: D200Dug- Monday, Jan 03, 2011 at 13:57
Monday, Jan 03, 2011 at 13:57
Cops often get into trouble for being over officious and let people off with a warning. As usual regardless of what they do someone will think it is the wrong thing.
While working with the SES I have often seen people drive round
road closed signs and into flooded areas, often just to stickybeak or drive their 4x4s in muddy water.
They have no problem telling emergency workers where to go if you ask them not to enter an area.
During one job in Noosa the bow waves from tourist 4x4 were so bad they were threatening to knock down sandbagged walls protecting properties, we accidently dropped a load of filled sandbags on the road so they were just under the surface but pretty
well impassable.
You should have heard the complaints as the drivers hit the submerged wall in their expensive toys.
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