Any one tried the Bushranger Recovery Tracks

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 08:08
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Bushranger Recovery Tracks

Saw these on ebay and was wondering if anyone had tried them?

I know about the Maxtrax but wondered if these may be better etc.

Thanks

Phil

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Reply By: wato35 - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:22

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:22
Well they look ok, but I would also like to hear from someone who has used them.

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Reply By: Alan Chops Arthur - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:33

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:33
I had them and didn't find them to be any use at all.

When I tried them on mud, I found the wheels just dragged the tracks and spat them out, not actually resulting in any traction. I went out and replaced them with the MaxTrax instead. Well worth the extra money in my opinion. If you decide to get the Bushranger ones anyway, I'd be happy to sell you mine!

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:43

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:43
I only needed one negative to leave them alone. When stuck out there on your own, you cant muck around with recovery gear.

Sorry but I shall have to refuse your very kind offer to take yours off your hands

Much appreciated

Phil
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Follow Up By: Alan Chops Arthur - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:45

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:45
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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:35

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:35
I use the Maxtrax – in soft sand you can stab them under the wheels without a lot of digging or jacking. From the Bushranger website it appears that you will need to dig and jack a fair bit to get theirs under the wheels.
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Reply By: vk1dx - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:45

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:45
Thanks all. I have my answer. As I said above you cannot muck around with recovery gear when on your own.

Phil
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Reply By: Mick O - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:54

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:54
At 75c a pop, have you considered using the hessian sample bags used by prospectors. They're about 600 x 280mm and you simply half fill them with sand and place them in front of your tyres with a view to getting the vehicle up on top of them for a fresh start. Same principal as the max track and only requires a little bit of effort with the shovel and saves you hundreds of your hard earned! Light, cheap and take up very little room.

Cheers Mick

Not the best of photos but you can see the bags being readied for use here
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 10:14

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 10:14
I have used bags myself in the past. And sticks and stones and lots of other stuff. Even made some up from plastic milk crates.

I was just wondering about these in comparison to the Maxtrax.

Thanks for the advice though Mick and the added photos. Been there done that.

Phil
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Reply By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 14:13

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 14:13
We bought a set of Gratemates in preference to MaxTrax. They do a similar job. The Gratemates are heavier, longer and will bridge a gutter.

Here they are on the roof:

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We had the opportunity to use both MaxTrax and Gratemates assisting in the recovery of a couple's Toyota on the Ernest Giles Track. The driver had driven around a abandoned bogged Patrol in a puddle by going onto the grass only to find he had now driven into a bottomless bog. They then winched up to the only tree dragging themselves another 5 to 6 metres into trouble:

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They had been trying to get out for about 4 hours when a recovery company from Alice arrived to get the Patrol. The Alice team had the patrol back on firm ground by the time we rolled up. He was then looking at the Toyota debating whether it was recoverable and agreed to try when we offered to assist and add our recovery gear to his. The Toyota was then sitting on its chassis rails. The owners were trying to jack it up with a high lift and put brush and branches under the wheels but the jack could not break the suction.

The contractor didn't charge for helping on the understanding that we couldn't guarantee getting them out, that they would clean our equipment and replace anything that was damaged during the recovery.

We set up for the extraction with the recovery company's winch to the Toyota and the already recovered patrol chained to the back to help stop the winch vehicle sliding into the slop:

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We then used the MaxTrax and Gratemates to form a ramp then a road base to winch the Toyota up onto and back to firmer ground:

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We couldn't get a straight pull as there was nowhere firm behind the bogged 4by and nothing to hook a snatch block to.

The vehicle slid for about 4 metes before finally popping up onto the tracks. The difference between the Gratemates and MaxTrax became clear here. The Maxtrax were pulled down into the mud and finding them was hard. (He was still looking for the last one after his partner had cleaned our gear and we were ready to leave):

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The Gratemates did not drop as far into the mud and were much easier to find but were very heavy when being moved after they filled with mud:

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It took 3 hours but we finally pulled it out:

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This was the first time I had used the Gratemates and I was impressed with the result. The Toyota's tires gripped on them better than the MaxTrax when covered in mud. I have since used them recovering a Patrol bogged in sand and the results were similar to MaxTrax.

In summary, they do a similar job to the MaxTrax, are cheaper but can bridge a gutter which MaxTrax cannot.

I'm happy with them.

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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 14:20

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 14:20
In the first photo of the bogged yota the two people standing right behind it are the same height.

The one on the left is standing on one of my Gratemates, the one on the right is in the mud and is not kneeling down!

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 19:07

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 19:07
What are their measurements?

After putting the roof top tent on the rack there isn't much room left. They will have to go across the rack.

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Follow Up By: Flynnie - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 19:34

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 19:34
Phil

Not wanting to butt in however I have their web page open and they are 1220mm x 310mm x 30mm and weigh 5 kilos.

Gratemates

Pete

A question. Would you recommend four? Some of the things on the Gratemates website made it look like four would be the norm.

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 20:42

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 20:42
MaxTrax also recommend four, but we only purchased two are they were insurance against going down in the sand; we were driving around the block, not looking for trouble of adventure. We didn't count on the stones at Carawine Gorge. With over seven tonne and eight wheels down, and the stones much harder than sand to dig in, just two MaxTrax got us out. Used only once, and worth every dollar we paid for them.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 21:01

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 21:01
Flynnie and that wonderful lady of the bush Motherhen. Hi

Thanks for dropping in. We would have to look at moving things around to fit them. We shall see but then again we have the same problem with the Maxtrax as well. I was hoping to save some room in front of the tent for firewood. It is quickly disappearing. When we are on our own there is plenty. But with any of the grand kids on board the back seats have to go in and that means the room in front of the tent is quite crowded. On our own its almost empty.

Ah Where on earth does the roulette table go now.

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Follow Up By: D200Dug- Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 23:11

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 23:11
You do have to wonder if they got out and walked the track before blundering into the bog :-)
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 23:29

Thursday, Jan 06, 2011 at 23:29
Hi Dug

Considering the damage done to wet clay roads, as can be seen in the pics, i was surprised that the road wasn't closed. Usually inland clay roads are closed pronto when it rains with big fines for transgressors.

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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Friday, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:01

Friday, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:01
They didn't walk it - the lady told me that they saw the grass and thought it would be OK. They were put off driving through the puddle by the bogged Patrol which had tried to go around the left hand edge. So they drove off into the area the water from the creek was leaving the road. (The Patrol was a rental that had been abandoned by the occupants 2 days prior)

The road was closed sometime in the next 2 days. We planned to drop in to the Henbury Meteorite Craters that afternoon but this exercise delayed us and we wanted to make Rainbow Valley that night. We tried to drive into Henbury on our way south a couple of days later but the road was then shut.

Most of the Ernest Giles Road was fine when we drove it and we zoomed straight through the puddle where both these vehicles were bogged by following the wheel marks of those who had gone before straight through the center. It got a little more slippery closer to the highway.

Just before we came across the bogged Toyota we saw this at the Palmer River:

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and were a little hesitant about crossing. We had just passed a couple in a Troopy who had stopped for lunch and went back and asked them if they had come through. They had walked the crossing and said it was fine where they came over on the upstream side.

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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Friday, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:04

Friday, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:04
Flynnie,

Missed your question - 4 would be great (grate!) but it is more stuff to carry. 2 should get you out of most trouble.

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