Motorola 9505 Questions.

Hi Everyone, long time EO stalker, first time poster !

I’m aware this topic has been covered pretty well in the past, but I couldn’t find many recent threads so I’m just wanting to make sure I’ve got all the up to date info.

I’m looking at buying a sat phone for a trip from East to West coast in early April. I’m going to purchase a Motorola 9505/A second-hand from eBay and use my current Telstra Next G Sim Card with Global Roaming activated. It will only be used for very limited/emergency calls

My main questions are:
1. Does it matter which country I purchase the phone from e.g. US or UK? Will I run into any probs here ?
2. How well does the phone work without an external Antenna? Is it necessary to buy one?
3. If I turn on the phone on while out in the middle of no-where, what’s to stop a heap of text messages coming in right there and then? I can’t imagine receiving a dozen messages in the middle of the Simpson would be a cheap exercise
4. Are there any other problems with the handsets themselves? I realize they’re starting to get abit of age on them. I’m expecting to pay between $600 - $900 for a good condition unit, is this reasonable?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
James.
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Reply By: George_M - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:36

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:36
I'll give you a preliminary opinion, James.

1. No – a Motorola 9505A is a standard unit across the planet. The only thing you have to look out for is the reputation/ethics of the seller. It is not uncommon for Iridium to block services (for a variety of reasons), in which case your shiny new 9505A will not be permitted to connect to the Iridium network.
2. Works fine providing your handset antenna has a clear view of the sky
3. I’m not sure how incoming text messages are charged. Notification of voicemail messages on my unit are not charged (not that I’ve noticed anyway)
4. These handsets are very reliable. You’ll probably get a new/refurbed one for $1200 or so. Have a look on the internet (buyer beware!).

All in all, a pretty good unit.

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Follow Up By: George_M - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:37

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:37
...or you could always rent one for the duration of your trip.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:43

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:43
1 NO

2 They usually come with one and is handy if you have phone in vehicle.
Run the cord out through the door seal and the magnetic aerial sits on
the roof

3 Nothing Tell your friends not to send them till you get back.

4 Not really just watch the little clip that holds the sim in It is a bit fragile
if handled roughly. and be careful you use the base of the aerial to move it NOT THE OUTER END it will break

A full package usually has both aerials a battery the phone and a leather case on the phone. and a manual I sold mine for a bit Over $900 but it had only about 100mins talk time.

Get as new a one as possible replacement batteries and aerials are over $200 each

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 16:20

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 16:20
Bought a new aerial a few months ago....had to shell out $340 as Graham suggested turn the aerial from the base
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 16:48

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 16:48
Here is what you want and just sell it when finished with it.

Will work with a sim but see a recent thread as they use a microSD I think



http://cgi.ebay.com.au/9555-motorola-iridium-satellite-phone-/200564802720?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item2eb29804a0

You would pay nearly $2000 for that new.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 16:49

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 16:49
This is easier Sorry



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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 16:56

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 16:56
A new one from here


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is $1540 so make the guy an offer
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Follow Up By: Member - Barry P (VIC) - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 20:36

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 20:36
bought a new battery for my 9505 last year from t r telecom in blackburn melbourne about 140 dollars ;but not sure now ;could have been cheaper ;barry
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 21:16

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 21:16
The batteries for the 9505 and the 9505 A are different They have different spacings of the pins on them for one thing.

When I bought my 9505A the new battery price on Ebay was $215.

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Follow Up By: Member - baffle (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 22:16

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 22:16
Following advice in this Forum, I bought a 9505A on Ebay recently for $700 including a new battery. Good condition and IT WORKS. Connected through TR Telecom at a reasonable rate without contract.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 23:19

Saturday, Jan 22, 2011 at 23:19
Hi James

On your second question, ours was hopeless with the short antenna. A chance meeting with a friend in a remote location (at a time when we were needing the phone) and she told me to always use the car antenna it came with (ours were new so if buying second hand make sure it is included before purchase). She leaves the antenna on the car roof even when travelling, shutting the door on the cable without damage, and she uses the phone while travelling.

I don't use the SIM card trick, but if you do and you get a lot of calls and messages it will be a problem and a cost. Change your number before you go and only give it out to immediate family.

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Reply By: snowy_07 - Sunday, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:30

Sunday, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:30
Thanks very much guys, Very helpful !

So i guess the basic run down for me (and anyone else looking to do this in the future) would be:

To buy a good second hand unit (doesn't matter where from) Ideally with low hrs, a relativley new battery, and while an external antenna isn't neccessary, it'll definatley make life easier.

To avoid the incoming text problem, I'll probably end up getting/using a sim that will just be for use with the sat phone, My current internet set-up through telstra uses a post-paid sim, but i'll have to look into the details, but that certainly could be an option. No-one knows the number for that account, so no probs with incoming calls/texts.

Regarding the Sims Card, I've had alook at some older posts, from what i can gather, the older 9500 uses the older style large sim card, but the newer 9505/9505A uses the regular type sim card that most of us use in our mobiles. I'll be confirming this with the seller before i purchse one though.

Any more info would be appriciated !

Thanks again,
James.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:59

Sunday, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:59
Yes the old 9500 uses the big one and the easiest way to fix that is buy a $2 starter pack and tape your sim card into the space where the existing one is.

You have to use a post paid (as in on a plan) sim card, internationally roamed

As you say use your net card I have made calls with my data sim in my phone and it works OK.

The 9555 is the one I would buy and then sell it when u finish with it It has all the bits and is the current model.
Should be a safer buy than an older one.

As far as using the normal aerial is concerned having it at the right angle as shown in the manual makes a big difference and will give reception almost anywhere.

I could actually use mine inside my house like that once I had got sync by going outside and hooking on.






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Reply By: GrumpyOldFart - Sunday, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:38

Sunday, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:38
Just got myself a new Inmarsat IsatPhone.

You can get a prepaid option for it ( prepaid amount last two years & cheapest is $35) or as I have at $16.50/month. You can text out to email or mobile for .50 and your mates can text you for free from Inmarsat's web site and it wont cost you. calls out are $1.00/min

Brand new the phone is under $800.00 and it is a solid unit.

Only one with bluetooth as well, I think.

Also you can send a text/email with your GPS fix.

It is an international phone so dialling out requires +61 then area code without the zero then phone number. I just programmed the numbers I want in the memory, like all the RFDS numbers & family & work.

Only had mine a couple of weeks but no problems so far

I'm not affiliated with the supplier of this phone just a happy customer. If you need more info try www.inmarsat.com or give Jackie Wilon at Safecity ACT Head Office Ph: 02 6280 9447 a call
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Jan 25, 2011 at 17:55

Tuesday, Jan 25, 2011 at 17:55
Congratulations GrumpyOldFart, I think you are the first on this site to own one. They look brilliant on paper.

I would be interested to see where you have used it ( or tested the reception). Given the Sat is over PNG I wonder what it would be like in the southern parts of Australia in hilly terrain.
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Follow Up By: GrumpyOldFart - Tuesday, Jan 25, 2011 at 20:42

Tuesday, Jan 25, 2011 at 20:42
Boobook

I live & work about 95km west of Surveyor Generals Corner.

It works great out here, voice quality is fantastic, clear and understandable. Almost better than my last Telstra mobile.

We will be going south to Strathalbyn around April for a break, so will know more then. I think I was told that the Inmarsat satellite is at a better angle for southerners than Thuraya or one of those other satellites. Buildings and hills will affect any sat phone unless the satellite is directly overhead.

Safety wise you can set the car kit & phone to send and SMS or Email to someone with your GPS position every time you turn off your ignition or when you press a button on the unit. The other great idea is a wireless pendant with a button on it that when pressed will make the phone send your GPS position as well. So you can leave the phone in the car kit and still have a backup in an emergency.

You can leave the phone on as it won't search for a satellite until you open the antenna, so standby battery life is around 4 days.

Car kits seem expensive but overall you can have and IsatPhone and car kit for $800 less than Telstras Satphone.

Hope I haven't hijacked this thread too much, but there is now a low cost high quality new alternative that makes second hand sat phones dubious value.
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Reply By: Member - Poppy (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:52

Sunday, Jan 23, 2011 at 11:52
G'day James
Can't help with your query, but ever considered becoming a member instead of "long time EO stalker"?
I am sure you would be made very welcome and also get to enjoy all the benefits that come with membership
Maybe give it a bit of thought, anyway regardless of your decision have a nice day and I hope you get the answer you're looking for
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Follow Up By: snowy_07 - Tuesday, Jan 25, 2011 at 14:32

Tuesday, Jan 25, 2011 at 14:32
Hi Ray,

Yes i certainly have thought about becoming a member. However, the forum is the main EO resource I use, and to be completely honest, I find the layout a pain in the backside. Not that there's anything wrong with it, it's just every other forum i've been a member with has been the traditional layout, it's what your used to I guess.

Also like alot of other people on here, time is a big factor for me. Sometimes I feel like i could spend a week perusing around here, but it's very rare i can even get a weekend off, but thats another story !

Thanks for the invite though ! it's much appriciated.

Cheers,
James.
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