Which Jayco Expanda?

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I am looking to update my Jayco Eagle Outback to a Jayco Expanda 16ft. I am wondering what the general opinion is of these vans and should i purchase the 16.49.1 or the 16.49.3? I am definite on the fact we want the hard lid model. The choice between the two is the larger kitchen or have the shower and toilet. I have 2 girls (aged 4 and 1) and would like to get away more often for weekend trips (hence the quicker set up time) and perhaps some decent length trips around this great country if time off work permits. We do not wish to do any serious off road type trips. I am currently towing with a diesel Prado. Any comments, suggestions or experiences would be appreciated.
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Reply By: Searay - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 14:09

Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 14:09
Hi Dieselonly, We have the 16.49.3 and love it. I have a 4 year old boy and he is mainly the one using the shower/toilet apart from us using the toilet at night. We find it has enough room inside and most of the time you are outside anyway. We do a lot of cooking in our baby q webber but in saying that i would not want to change to a different model. We have had larger caravans and they dont have as much room inside as the expanda. I might add we are living in ours as we travel Aust.'
cheers Troy
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Follow Up By: Member - Gadget - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:41

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:41
Hi Troy The Webber would have to be the bets BBQ on the market. Everything you can cook in the oven can be done in the webber. So you have got everthing you need the Expanda and the Webber.
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Follow Up By: DIESELONLY - Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 13:07

Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 13:07
Troy. Thanks for the comments, wish i was travelling around Oz but maybe one day. I also use the baby webber q and love it. Especially good for oysters kilpatrick on the beach! Have showed my wife the comments and am swaying towards this model.

Travel safe.
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Follow Up By: Member - Gadget - Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 13:46

Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 13:46
Hi Dieselonly The 16.49.3 looks like a good layout. I see they have a B option with the Cafe lounge, this would be a good option as you wound'nt have to climb around the table to get into bed.

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Reply By: Member - Gadget - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 15:57

Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 15:57
Hi Diesel We have the 18-57-7 Great van, ours is the road version, I would suggest if possible get the Outback version for the extra ground clearence and some light off road. The toilet and show is a must. Its great as you dont have to keep running to the toilet block. Yes the setup is quick and easy. I know Coromal have the transforma series could be worth a look. The Expanda seem to be the bet option for families.

Also get the bed end screens as they give privacy and keep the heavy rain off the canvas. I think they are now an option from Jayco?

Have a look at the Expanda owners group
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Reply By: Lindsay & Aj - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 20:23

Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 20:23
Hello All,
We also have the 18.55 road version but due to have a 3 inch lift in the cruiser it didnt sit well. Solution was to turn the axles over and gain four inches of clearance with out paying for the out back model. We also have the bed flys and its great for privacy and ventalion with out people seeing in.
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Reply By: Member - Bill B1 (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:14

Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:14
Stop looking at Jayco vans. There are a lot of unhappy people running around with a version of a Jayco.
Instead, look first at an Outback Paramount; it has all the things in an Exapnda and the Outback version has good chassis, good sealing on the rear bed door and all the usual features plus well built. AND then go look at a Windsor Rapid; also the Outback model with all the features you mentioned.
The Jayco has a small depth measurement on the bed ie not much headroom and certainly not as much as the Rapids. Not sure of the depth on the Paramounts. But look at this part of it and compare.
The Windsor has the floor covering - cork- fitted right through the van including under the cupboards. Not cut to the outside of the cupboard so a gap appears as it shrinks. Look at this aspect too in the others.
Storage is a problem with all of this type of van, so compare the offerings.
Last, look at the suspensions on offer and the size of the axle plus bearings. Compare the features, this is what keeps your van tracking straight, especially on the corrugations.
I own a Windsor, 4.42, double ender, 2008, road version. I will update to a newer version when I get some more $$.
These are the BEST vans for interior room versus outside length.

Bill B

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Follow Up By: Roughasguts - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 23:55

Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 23:55
I have to agree with Bill, look at a Rapid! see the differance in quality you will get your money back when it's time to sell and upgrade.

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Follow Up By: Searay - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 14:29

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 14:29
I agree also the windsor is a better built van BUT after just upgrading we found they were also dearer and have less cupboard space inside, shower and toilet was smaller and from memory they are only double beds both ends. So we went for a Jayco expanda outback and have fixed up small things ourselves. At the end of the day it is how you treat them when travelling.
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Follow Up By: landed eagle - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 16:34

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 16:34
After 20,000+ kms in nearly two years my 16-49-3 Outback Expanda HL is still performing faultlessly. Nothing fallen off or broken and everything works. This is my second Jayco and I'll certainly look at another when the times comes to change.
Still seeing the older style expandas selling S/H for not a lot less than I paid for my brand new one, so it would seem that they are holding their value well.
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Follow Up By: ao767brad - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:28

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:28
Hi we have had a 2006 windsor rapid 441 offroad for 12 months and love it. Upgraded from an older version jayco eagle and the setup time saving is amazing. With 2 girls 7 & 9 we didn't go the expanda due to finish levels and for price on the second hand market could not get hard lid expanda. Rapid had a better layout,but I would suggest you test the bed length if over 180cm(6ft) as wife and I are 6'2" and we use the table folded to extend the bed length instead of sleeping across the van as intended. Everyone has preferences but we found the rapid storage great after camper trailer and storage spot designed for porta loo meant you only had to go to shower block once a day for shower. The toilet shower models add at least 100-150kg for the extra weight of water to cart around, do you intend to do that much free camping? I would have gone that way if we had money to buy new. Off for 3 months in May so will know more after that.
In 2010 we helped a couple with a 2009 hard lid expanda who had a wheel seperate from the van near balina on their trip!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Gadget - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:52

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:52
The Jayco is a great product, they have excellent warranty and back up through nation wide dealers. Yes we had some minor issues under warranty but we did not have any issues with getting the issues fixed.

I know of other people that have purchased other manufacturers and have had issues and even arguments on getting warranty claims fixed.

If you subject any van to extreem conditions, off road, speed, weather, exsessive weight etc you will have maintenance issues. Look after it and maintenace it will last.
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Follow Up By: DIESELONLY - Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 13:18

Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 13:18
Bill, thanks for your comments. My wife really likes the Jayco but i will look at these models that you suggested. Thanks for that. What problems do you know happen with the Jayco Expanda as it seems some people say that there are troubles but i have not found anyone who can tell me what they are. Do the other brands have the same problems? Obviously this is a very big purchase for us so want to get it right and not have to update for a long time.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bill B1 (NSW) - Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 23:24

Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 23:24
The problems with Jayco have been mentioned. Quality control and several trips back to the dealer. If you have owned a van before you should know what to look for when you pick it up. Secondhand, you still have to look carefully.
Look at several layouts to see which give the best wide access to the beds.
Measure the headroom in the bed area. Expando look to be small. Measure the bed width if you are tall. I am 5'7" and have no problem in the Windsor.
Get the Outback version if you can afford it as they usually have a better suspension standard. Otherwise you will need to sit the springs on top of the axle rather than underneath. this gives a height increase of 100mm. You need this on the road models as they can drag their bottom in and out of driveways.
Look at how the rear bed door seals as this is where the red dust comes in. My Windsor had the addition of sticky back foam strip that seals now about 95%. Paramount look like they have a better solution. Look carefully.
Your choice will be a compromise, whichever model you go for. The trick is to have only a few compromises!!
One thing confuses me, in your post and others, is this 'fear' of sending children to the shower block in a caravan park. Most children, mine included, go with a parent, uo until a fairly old age. Can't see a problem there. Even toileting will have a parent. At some stage, children need to go out on their own and solve life's problems; including the 'fear' of being on their own. This is why they need to go to school on their own. After a lot of practice, they get good at it and are happy with their image and place in the world.
Putting ideas of 'bad' people lurking everywhere is not a sensible option when bringing up children.
Sorry, to preach but I see too much of 'helicopter' parents and dependent children.
Good luck with your caravan search. The Expanda bed concept is the way to go. Oh yes, I have seen a Coromal 'expanda' to day in Perth. They look as big in the beds as a Windsor.
Bill B

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Reply By: time waster - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 08:13

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 08:13
Go the shower model, we have the 16.49-3 Outback and love it. We also have two young girls and don't have to worry about them in the caravan parks shower and toilet block.

We have had ours for nearly three years and have never used a caravan park shower since having the Expanda.

Agree that the quality checks on the line should be better to save warranty work on pick up but value for money and resale value is excellent.

Some pictures here of our Expanda in some deep river crossings from Lawn Hill to Kingfisher Kamp, with no dust or water getting in


Also a good Expanda owners forum herehttp://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/expandaownersaustralia/

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Follow Up By: DIESELONLY - Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 13:15

Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 13:15
Christian. Thanks for your comments and links, it is a real help. Definitely thinking of the shower model now. Resale value on Jayco is definitely high, so high i would prefer to pay the little extra and buy a new one. I am prepared to buy second hand as long as hard lid but although people are not selling them, they wont reduce the price. It is a major concern of my wife's with the 2 girls and them going to the toilet block themselves. As they are only young this will be a problem for a long time in the future for us.

Thanks again.
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