Electric caravan mover

Submitted: Friday, Feb 11, 2011 at 20:26
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Hi everyone, looking for some advice on a 12v caravan mover's. We have to squeeze the Flamingo up the side of the house, drive into the caraport, unhitch, push the van up into the yard, back the car out and then manouver the van into the caraport.
Hubbie is looking for an easier way. Backing in is not an option as the gap is too tight, he is a very confident tilt tray driver - but has become stuck previously.
Does anyone use a 12v mover or have any advise on one?
Thanks in advance.
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Reply By: Roughasguts - Friday, Feb 11, 2011 at 20:38

Friday, Feb 11, 2011 at 20:38
All I know about them is they are really exspensive over 2500.oo and don't really work on any kind of slope.

So maybe an old ride on lawn mower might do the job for a whole lot less money

cheers
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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:29

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:29
Yeah they are not cheap, hence the need for other peoples experiences.
The ride on mower sounds good. Thanks for your input.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Friday, Feb 11, 2011 at 20:55

Friday, Feb 11, 2011 at 20:55
Is the area paved?

If so you could try 'go-jacks'. I push the camper hard up against the side of the garage to maximise the space for getting in and out of the car.

It was a painful exercise until I bought the 'go-jacks'. Now it all happens very quickly and easily.

The go-jacks are a pair of hydraulic jacks designed to lift the wheels of the camper off the ground. They are fitted with small wheels so the trailer can then be moved easily in any direction.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:30

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:30
Unfortunatley it is all grass, and gets a bit boggy when wet - one of the reason we have become stuck before. Thanks for your input.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Feb 11, 2011 at 20:56

Friday, Feb 11, 2011 at 20:56
Perhaps a Hitchdrive may be a cheaper alternative to a 12 volt mover.

I haven't seen one personally, but the demo on their web site makes it look (too?) easy.


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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:32

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:32
Thank for the suggestion Bill.
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Reply By: skmaint (WA) - Friday, Feb 11, 2011 at 21:56

Friday, Feb 11, 2011 at 21:56
Hi Flashcher,

A bloke I know uses one and he loves it.
Paid $1200 second hand, for memory he said they are about $1900 new.

This is a place that sells them here in the west.
http://www.travellerwa.com.au/index.html



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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:33

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:33
Thanks for your reply. They now retail for aroung $2500, alot to pay out and then find they don't work. Good to hear someone is having a good run with one.
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Reply By: Robert B1 - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 06:54

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 06:54
I went through this exercise last year - in our case it was a total failure as we had a slope and bluestone pitchers to contend with. They are expensive - over $2000 plus freight from WA. They work wonderfully on a flat concrete floor> Someone recently told me about a wheel containing an electric motor but as yet can't find anything on the internet.There certainly is a need for something that works - another thing I did was wire the unit to the van directly thus avoiding the battery piggy back system - used heavy cable to assist.

Hope you get a solution
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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:36

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:36
Thanks for your reply on your experience. We have a small slope but it is all grass and becomes boggy when wet. The person who invents something will do very well.
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:51

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:51
My neighbour had a Jayco Swan and he used to manouver the van with a Rachet Jockey Wheel, even over grass ect, he bought it from Super Cheap for about $195 you could try one and if it didn't work take it back for a refund or exchange.

Cheer
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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:38

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:38
Thanks for your reply. That is what we use currently, but after the last trip - the tyre blew out whilst we were trying to get it into the carport.
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Reply By: MarkSom - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:10

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:10
Gooday Flash', Mark from Ballina, got Jayco Dove, got one of the ratchet drive jockey wheels, works like a treat, even on hard grass, also use 2 bits of heavy ply board for soft ground, use ours as normal jockey wheel in parks & camp grounds, good to staighten van on site.Good for hitch hook up as well, just reverse back level, then crank across, & lower, easier than normal jockey. Did modify mine, took off the non return ratchet, just bolts off...I've a bad back, like most Aussies must be in our genes, wouldn't travel with out ours now............SupaCheap Autos had on sale near half price occasionally. Hope this works.
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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:42

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:42
Thanks for your reply Mark. By taking of the non return ratchet, do you mean the cog with teeth on it?
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Follow Up By: MarkSom - Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 16:39

Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 16:39
Hi Flash', Mark here, mine has a round plate with holes in it, 1 radius arm with rotatable (word of the day) forward/reverse pin, did have a plate with reversible pin to stop roll back, took that off so only have to set 1 pin. My jockey has a solid flat tyre, has yours a pump up one?
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Reply By: B1B2 - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:16

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:16
G'day Flashcer,
I use the Traveller Industries AW3, as I also have very little room to manoeuvre the van. My driveway is level with a deep gutter to cross and I use a board to level this out. It has the power to move it over this but it slows down. If its wet and you need to move it on a hill, you may need to drop dry sand to reduce wheelspin. I have a tandem van that weighs 3 tonnes. I can move it around 95% of the time without assistance. The AW3 is connected to my caravan batteries via an Anderson plug.
If your driveway is too steep it may not be the way to go. iI does the job well for my situation.

Cheers,
Bill
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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:43

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:43
Thanks for your reply Bill, I will google your suggestion and do some research.
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:43

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:43
I have never used one but watched one on wet grass - useless. However a few sheets of marine ply that were used as a mobile runway made it all good.
cheers
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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:13

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:13
Thanks for the reply. The whole area is grass, so I think an electric mover is now out.
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Reply By: glids - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:52

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 08:52
If you could move the van directly backwards, and do not need to go sideways, I may have another option to consider.

My driveway is straight, but narrow and long. I have about 50mm clearance each side of the van through the gate, then about 100mm each side for the next 15m before it opens out a bit.

The 12V movers were far too expensive for my taste, and I didn't need to change direction, so I built a capstan winch.

It consists of a 1/4HP 240V motor coupled to a 100 to 1 ratio wormdrive gearbox, on which I mounted the 'capstan' shaft. A capstan winch is the type used on boats where you wrap a rope several times around the 'capstan', and it only winches when you apply tension to the free end of the rope - the rest of the time the rope slips on the capstan shaft.
I have the advantage of a good workshop- lathe, welders etc so easy to put it all together. I already had the motor, the gearbox cost $100 second-hand (great Italian box) and I made the capstan shaft from aluminium. I use a 70m length of 12mm 'anchor rope' from the back of the van to the winch and back to me at the front of the van. The winch is mounted on a steel frame, bolted to the concrete path at the back of the driveway. My driveway has a slope (upwards) so I use one of the cheap single-wheel ratchet jockey wheels (chinese copy of Maco) to stop the van running back over me when I stop pulling on the free end of the rope. The winch pulls the van at a very slow walk - probably 10 minutes for 20 metres - but that gives me time to steer the van through the gate and up the narrow drive without fear of running into anything.

All-up cost was under $200 (but as I said, I have the machining capacity).

The system would be difficult to use if you need to change direction, and could not be used safely if the driveway ran downhill.

Works for me - may be an idea to consider.

cheers,
glids
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Follow Up By: glids - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:00

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:00
looks like you are also on the Australia4wd forum. If you need more info, photo etc, PM me on that forum - same forum name.

cheers,
glids
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:40

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:40
I once saw a chap with a sloping driveway using a winch to drag his caravan to the backyard. As I recall it was a wire rope and he had a snatch block at the end of the drive with the winch around the corner. He opened the snatch block to allow the van to be then pulled around the back. Didn't get to look at the winch itself but it was a two-person task..... one operating the winch and one steering the van. Don't know how he got the van out again.

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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:18

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:18
Thanks for the reply Glids. Sounds like a great set up you have. Unfortunatley we have to do a 90 degree turn at the back of the house, then push it around another 90 degree's to get it in the car port.


Allan, sound like a good idea if we didn't have the corners. Might have to buy a new house lol.
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Follow Up By: glids - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:55

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:55
I actually do move the van sideways as well... I have built a castor trolley that goes under the axle and lift the van up using 2 modified Nissan screw jacks. I then use 1 or 2 snatch blocks to winch the whole lot sideways - I need 2 to pull into place, and 1 to pull it back to the driveway. Bit of 'stuffin around', but damn near killed me moving it manually the first time before I built the necessary mechanisms.

cheers,
glids
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:38

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:38
A few ideas on this site:

http://www.caravanmoversonline.co.uk/

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Follow Up By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:19

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:19
Thanks for your reply, will check the site out.
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Reply By: flashcher - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:22

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:22
Thank you everyone for your replies. We have now ruled out getting the 12v unit. The cost was always daunting to me, but if it made the job easier for hubbie we would had gotten it. But it seems they don't perform well on grass and that is the surface we are working with.
The ride on mower might be the go. We went to the local show last night and watch the show mow racing with all the hotted up mowers. Hubbie is now thinking he can do the same....lol - just add a tow hitch.
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Reply By: Member-George (WA) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 18:52

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 18:52
Have you considered a tow hitch attachment to the front of the car. It works a treat, perfect control of the c.van, you see precisely where you are going and the car to push it. Cheers
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Follow Up By: flashcher - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 15:51

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 15:51
Thanks for your suggestion. We had thought about it, but not really kean on doing it.
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 19:31

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 19:31
hi
i know its expensive have you looked at the ultimate in movers
www.campertrolley.com.au
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Follow Up By: flashcher - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:48

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:48
Thanks for your reply, I will have a look.
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Reply By: prado-wolf - Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 17:33

Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 17:33
Hi Flashcher,

have a look at www.purpleline.co.uk ,

they have a video of the product etc.

I know that the first lot of the units will arrive in Australia sometime in may 2011.

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