dry ice for Canning
Submitted: Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 19:45
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Gossy
we are doing the
Canning stock route next year with a group of friends with 3 vehicles in total. We are all going to have fridges but I am looking at having our ice box on the trip for drinks etc so we are not continually opening up the fridge (have frozen meals/food in there for the 22 days instead).
Plan is it obtain dry ice as late as possible (Kalgoorlie) but can't see any suppliers on the internet there. Anyone know of dry ice suppliers in Kalgoorlie??
thanks,
Reply By: The Landy - Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 20:01
Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 20:01
One of the issues with using ice is that you generally need at least 1/3rd of the carrying capacity of the ice chest filled with ice. But that aside, why not evaluate whether you actually need 22 days worth of refrigerated (and frozen) food. One of the issues here is what if you suffer a refrigeration break-down?
Why not take a balance of refrigerated (not frozen) and dry food??
Not the question you asked, but offering as ‘food for thought’…..
Cheers, The Landy
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:20
Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:20
yep looking at all options. Dry ice is 'new' for Aussies to use for personal use. Look on the internet and it's readily available in America for just this purpose. There is a 24hr servo in
Adelaide which sells it so the demand for personal use is there, be it only small currently.
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Reply By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 21:01
Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 21:01
Hi Gossy, Not at all sure that dry ice is a good idea for regular food refrigeration. It produces a temperature of about minus 78c and, apart from industrial use, is generally only used for refrigerating stuff like ice cream for short times. At this low temperature it can easily "burn" foodstuffs in close proximity and will also lose energy rapidly to the environment and so not last long. It is also quite expensive.
Perhaps the worst feature is that it sublimates into copious amounts of carbon dioxide gas which is a real danger in the confines of a vehicle by displacing the oxygen. Oh, and it's true about attracting mozzies. They are attracted to CO2 as it is a component of exhaled animal breath which indicates a food source for them!
Now there will be those who say they have done it but nevertheless.........!
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 21:45
Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 21:45
If dry ice is found not to be a viable option Gossy another way is to freeze tecni ice sheets in your freezer & rotate them through the esky each day.
Personally I just set
mine as a fridge then cryovac meals & meat. This minimise's power use & means you can rotate drinks without freezing them.
Cheers Craig.............
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:18
Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:18
Agree, I have these and if I can't find dry ice will do this on rotation with the fridge setup as a freezer.
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Reply By: Member - peter f (VIC) - Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 22:40
Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 22:40
why waste your time with ice when you have 3 fridges , cryovac your food ,
problem solved . we did a trip down the CSR in 05 , 3 fridges , 7 blokes for 2 weeks , no eskies .
mechpete
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:48
Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:48
We did the CSR in 2009 with just a 40L Engel, we didn't stack it full of drinks, instead we kept about half a dozen cans in it & as we took one out we put one back in, worked fine for us.
We did take a second fridge, but a bad judgement call saw us buy a Waeco, which lasted precisely 7 days on the corrugations of the Gunbarrel.
We also had vacuum packed all our meat & we were quite surprised at the range of products that could be bought at Kunwarritji. (
Well 33).
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:16
Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:16
thanks for that. Sorry to hear about your fridge; hopefully it was covered in warranty. Our Waeco has been great to us over 6yrs; maybe it was built on a Friday arvo :)
Cheers,
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Reply By: Steve63 - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 13:00
Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 13:00
I don't think the dry ice will last too long. Certainly not 22 days. Even in winter the ambient temperature can get to the high thirties. You could use some of those high tech chill sheets. If you are moving most days you will not have a power issue repeatedly refreezing them. I would probably cryovac most things so there is less risk if they thaw a bit. I think you will find 22 days of food and drinks to be a big stack. CSR trips usually start by working out what to leave
home. When you have the pile to pack with all the "I'll take x just in case" it will be a mountain. However, shocker, tyre and fridge trouble is reasonably common on the CSR.
Steve
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 13:14
Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 13:14
yep good point. Crossed the Simpson one year where one of the fridges was a freezer and that worked
well but it was only a 4 day crossing compared to 22 days. I think the freezing of my techniice sheets will be the best option
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