solo traveller

Can anyone help with suggestions as to what caravan I should be looking for. I am travelling solo (female) I have a rav4. Am looking for a toilet and aircon in my van as essentials. I am keeping an eye on the trading post for a second hand van, but unsure as to what length I can tow comfortably that will still have the above. I need a fairly sturdy reliable brand probably with dual wheels ?
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Reply By: Polaris - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 09:35

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 09:35
Before you look at any shower/toilet tandem van - you need to establish the towing capacity of your RAV4. I doubt you will find any tandem shower /toilet van that comes in light enough. RAV4s are relatively small light vehicles - usually with a maximum tow capacity of 1500 Kg.

Before loking at anything second hand - visit a couple of caravan dealerships and see if they can supply any model that will suit your need. A private seller wont be concerned if your vehicle can safely tow or not - even some dealers don't care. But most reputable dealerships wont sell you something that is too heavy for your vehicle.


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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:57

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:57
Thankyou, I will have a chat to my local dealer.
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Reply By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 09:38

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 09:38
Hi Mishy

I had a 'google', and it seems the Rav4 is good for towing 1500kg, with the right tow setup.

If you need a van with air con and a toilet, then I think you would be hard pressed to find such a creature under that weight.

But, that is what you need to look at, the weight of the van before you purchase it. My mate pulled a Jayco camper with his, and the car certainly knew it was there, particularly on hills, and that wasn't a van with air con etc.

Remember to add about 300kg to the unladen weight of the van for all your gear, its surprising how quickly weight adds up.

Good luck, and Cheers,

Dave

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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:59

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:59
Thankyou, this is what I needed to understand and adding in the extra weight is very helpful information !
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:23

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:23
Mishy small vans under 1.5 Tonne rarely have extra's like toilets, showers & airconditioning so finding one 2nd hand will be difficult. There are a few like the HiLo caravan but you must remember anything built light to save weight will often not be sturdy enough to tow to many places in Oz. You may need to reasess your wants & needs. If you don't want to compromise on the space of a tandem, extra features & sturdy construction you may need to look at a bigger tow vehicle.
Cheers Craig..............
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:56

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:56
Thankyou, I agree that I may have to look at a second hand Prado or the like.
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Reply By: oz doc - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:15

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:15
HI Mishy, Maybe have a look at the 'Innovan' website. They have a campertrailer type model which has toilet and shower. I think it comes in lighter than a regular caravan so may be suitable for the Rav 4. doc.
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:50

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:50
Thankyou will do !
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Reply By: Member - Rob D (NSW) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:30

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:30
Realistically the best you could do with your Rav4 is to get a small caravan or camping trailer, go without the air conditioning and use a porta-potti for your toilet. There is good information on caravan toilets and porta-potties, without creating unpleasant smells, on some of the caravan sites.

We have an Ultimate off-road camper trailer and my wife insists on having a decent toilet and a good shower. We use one of the larger porta-potties (365 I think) which breaks down in to two pieces so that we can pack it away in the lockers when we are travelling. This can be used inside the camper trailer of a night.

Our shower is one of those instant shower tent shelters and a 12V hand held shower with a submersible pump. You may not need this if you intend to stay in camp grounds.
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:55

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:55
Would love an Ultimate wonder if I could close it up on my own ? I am looking forward to seeing their new caravan, which is out mid year, will probably be way out of my budget but curious as to the weight it will be !
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:19

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:19
how long do you plan to travel for and where do you plan to travel to ?????
If planning to travel up north in the end of the dry/start wet it is very hot and you will need an ac, if cold places and down south you wont ...
Also consider the cost against not towing anything and planning on accomodation, a van can be expensive and the added costs of fuel and restricted speed and places you can go may out weigh the need for a van ....
example is $20,000 grand for a van will go towards a LOT of accomodation, a single person can get some very cheap and good accomodation and you will have the freedom of being able to get to any place you want, get to go down tracks to see sights, get to travel on some gravel safely and get to park in shopping center car parks, that is a real hassle these days with a van on the back .....
Have you thought of all the car parks in some of the places you go to now as part of everyday life, all these will be very restricted in not out of bounds ...
Cheers
Joe
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 07:02

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 07:02
Thankyou for your suggestion. I agree that it would probably be a better idea to stay in accommodation along the way until I can afford the right rig and car. I will miss being in the camp ground with all you wonderful travellers !
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 18:43

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 18:43
still plenty of places that have dongas in campgrounds so you will see all the travellers eh ....
It is also a good chance to see first hand what other people have and how they do it, you will meet people who are in the same situation and see what they have get get real opinions from them ....... window shopping is the best way ......
Most of all....
Have fun and enjoy
Cheers
Joe
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Tuesday, Mar 01, 2011 at 21:55

Tuesday, Mar 01, 2011 at 21:55
Bit the bullet today and bought a prado....now I have a lot more options !
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Tuesday, Mar 01, 2011 at 21:55

Tuesday, Mar 01, 2011 at 21:55
Bit the bullet today and bought a prado....now I have a lot more options !
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Reply By: splits - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 14:40

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 14:40
I agree with what has already been said about finding a suitable van with all of those features, plus dual wheels, that can be towed by a Rav4. I think you would be better off buying a small light van and having the interior altered to suit you. Even the smallest are usually designed to sleep three or four people. There would be a lot of space left for things like showers and toilets if you reduced them to one single bed.

As for weight, have a look at this old Millard on Ebay.http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260742172257&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT I am not suggesting you buy one of those because they are about thirty years old but they weigh around 600 kgs. I have a copy of a caravan magazine from about 2005 that did a full feature on one that had been modified for off road use. It was a wood framed, 1978 12 foot model that had a slightly narrower roof than the one in the photo. Apart from that it looked the same.

It had been fitted with a much heavier axle, wheels and springs and both the chassis and draw bar had been strengthened. The interior had an elevated full size island double bed and many other changes. It still only weighed 860 kgs and had been driven extensively throughout the Outback for ten years. There would have to be something much later in years, and no heavier than a stock one of those, that could be easily and cheaply modified to suit you.

A shower and toilet can be very simple as has already been pointed out. My wife and I travelled for many years in a home made camper on the back of a 2wd ute. The shower was a 150 mm high fibreglass tray with a curtain that attached to the inside edge with Velcro and to the roof with an elastic strap on each corner. The tray drained through a short built in drain tube that fitted into a hole in the floor. The hole was sealed when not in use with a bath plug. The shower was a bucket of water and a hand held 12 volt unit.

The toilet was a portable that sat in a black plastic storage bin from Bunnings. It slid in under a cupboard when not in use. The bin was just the right width but a little longer which meant the toilet opening handle could be pulled out in the front while the whole thing was still in the bin. This prevented us accidentally standing on it and breaking it.

We did not want an air conditioner but it would have been no trouble to fit a small one.

Regarding size: question and answer sections of van magazines often contain questions along those lines. The answer given is always to buy the smallest van that will meet your needs. No matter how big your car is, if you have a monster on the back that is right up on the car's maximum towing capacity, you are not going to have a very pleasant time driving it on anything other than flat sealed roads..

That little modified Millard in my magazine was being towed by a late model 4.2 Patrol ute. It would not have known the van was on the back. Always try and have plenty in reserve, particularly in a small car like a Rav4.
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:52

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:52
Thankyou for your reply, I really appreciate all your suggestions !
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Reply By: Andrew & Jen - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 14:59

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 14:59
Hullo Mishy25
Just a thought - Google "Aliner". The 3C might suit you with a tare weight of 800kgs and optional a/c and loo.
There are other models as well to have a look at.
Friends have one and are very happy.
Cheers
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:49

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:49
I am excited to check this out...thankyou !
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Reply By: GUJim - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 18:48

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 18:48
Hi Mishy25.
I think at least one of the Adria models would fit your requirements, though finding a 2nd hand one may be a challenge. Don't know what your budget is so otherwise I think (as per other posts) you may have to review your requirements.
Certainly anything with tandem axles would be beyond the capabilities of your Rav4.
Regards, Jim.
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 07:03

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 07:03
Thankyou, I agree...and with all the helpful suggestions I now have a much clearer idea of what I should be doing.
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Reply By: Glenn_cot - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 18:58

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 18:58
Hi some of the Jayco's might suit.
http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Caravans/Caravans/AdNumber=TP004366526;pgid=IZ9I6j2bW25SR0E3Bt6RbvYH0000NnA2seyp;sid=Sq-gRUZ4XjKjjwsSSByq5E1ZDR1T_AHKuRbWH69c?BackToResult=true&AdOnTop=
and
http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Caravans/Caravans/AdNumber=D2532100909247?BackToResult=true&AdOnTop=
Glenn
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Follow Up By: Mishy25 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:48

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 06:48
A huge thank you to all the wonderful people in the previous 10 posts who have taken the time to answer my question. I really appreciate you all taking the time to help me out. To travel without a van initially and stay in accommodation is a terrific idea. Either I go for a larger car to increase my towing capacity or I will look at a camper with a portaloo. I love the Ultimate and I guess with some practice I could close it up by myself. I would love to have aircon, but we can't have everything ! I am going to check out the Avan too. Once again thanks !
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