Cobb Cooking - bread

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To all the Cobb cooks out there - we are going up North to Rudall River in May and I am trying to find a tested recipe for making a loaf of bread in the cobb - using a pre-mix rather than from scratch. I need to practice before I go! I am sure I have seen something on this forum before, but my searches didn't bring any up. We have enjoyed Mick O's adventures up there, but he obviously was not the cook! Many thanks. Trish
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 18:19

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 18:19
Hi Trish,

I have cooked bread in the Cobb.
First of all you will need an appropriate sized bread tin that fits in the Cobb with the lid closed.
A full bag of premix may be a little too much. Perhaps try 500g first and adjust as necessary.
The bread mix I use is Laucke Crusty White which is available in 600g packets, complete with yeast.
I also tried the silicon (rubber) bread "tins" but found it burned on the bottom and I have gone back to metal tins.
Also the frying pan which comes with the Cobb is better than the roasting pan (slightly domed shape with holes in it).
Try 6 heat beads which should provide ample heat.

Because there are usually 6 people when we go camping, I tend to bake my bread (the full 600g) in the camp oven, but have also used the Cobb on occasions.

So, practise away my girl.
There is nothing better than the aroma of freshly cooked bread and the next morning, try toasting a slice or two. Toasting brings back the crispy crust and is a perfect complement to eggs, which ever way you like them.
(I like mine lightly fried with still runny yokes)

After succcessfully baking bread in this manner you wont bother with damper again.
Oh, you can also make the dough and freeze it to take away.
Just make sure you allow sufficient time for it to thaw.

Good luck and good baking Trish.


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Follow Up By: Member - Trish&Craig(WA) - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:34

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:34
Thanks for the tips Bill - seems the Laucke mix is the way to go. I use that at home in my breadmaker - but The Boss says that there is no way on this earth he is carting a breadmaker camping... so it's back to the "manual" method.. :)
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 21:59

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 21:59
Another Laucke devotee here.
We mix one packet of multigrain with one packet of crusty white - then we make loaves.
Also get a packet of bread improver and add some of that to the mix - the result is less chance of a stodgy loaf. Works great in dampers as well.

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Follow Up By: Member - Trish&Craig(WA) - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 22:08

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 22:08
Thanks Phil, that's a good idea, I mix two bread types at home but have not added bread improver before. Will give it all a go!
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Reply By: Mick O - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 18:22

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 18:22
Hey Hey Hey, yes he was! Thoroughly belonging to the Little Red Hen school of cooperative federalism, I made Gaby do all the hard work. No knead, no loaf. The mixing, proving and overall Cobb supervision was up to me. Gaby could burn water!!! (sorry Gab, harsh but fair).

In all seriousness I’ve found a premix to be the best bet. I use a Laucke standard white bread mix and carry dry yeast with me. I do a bit of experimenting at home to ensure the right mix and fluid amounts for loaf size. This makes it a lot easier out bush or you can pre-pack the bread mix into appropriate weight portions before you go (I work out of a 5kg bag of mix). I also have two pieces of 8mm stainless square rod about 70mm long which I put between the hotplate and the bread tin to stop the bottom of the loaf burning through the loaf tin.

Have fun up there. I’m jealous as this is the first time in 6 years I’ll not be in Rudall. With so much water about, it will be an amazing place to visit.

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Follow Up By: Member - Michael and Chris (QL - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:17

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:17
Yes, I to am a great cooking supervisor Mick. I must admit that I am much better at collecting wood than cooking, my talents remain hidden somewhere within. Cheers Mick
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Follow Up By: Member - Trish&Craig(WA) - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:44

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:44
Hi Mick, I stand severely admonished! I should have known you were a true bushman! We have been avidly reading all your reports and watching your videos - in preparation for our trip to RR. We are going with about 8-9 other vehicles (4WD Club) and we are very keen to see how much water is around compared to when you were there last - it seemed to be in dire need. Hopefully we will get some good photos to post for you! Thanks also for the tips on bread making and the rods.
ps - I thought it was the same Gaby who had a post some time ago about her first attempt at bread making in the cobb! but I could not find the thread.
pps - I wish I had a quad bike as well!.
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 18:52

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 18:52
Oh dear, Trish. Having travelled with Mick O through the Kimberley, Pilbara and other places, I can vouch for his culinary expertise. Scallops risotto was a standout, but also his simpler dishes such as his jaffles with a variety of fillings are worth waiting for. I was very good at removing corks from wine bottles.

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Follow Up By: Member - Trish&Craig(WA) - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:52

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:52
Hi Jack, the important thing when travelling with other people is for everyone to pitch in and do something to help - the smallest of tasks are still just as important! Watch out for screw top wine bottles though - you could be made redundant! Cheers, Trish
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Reply By: Andrew & Jen - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:46

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:46
Hullo Trish
You might like to try Lauke's German Grain Mix
Also make 4 rolls rather than 1 loaf - quicker to cook and keeps well
Can use a camp oven on the Cobb with a few heat beads on top as well as underneath so top browns
Plenty of recipes on other camping web sites as well
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Follow Up By: Member - Trish&Craig(WA) - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:56

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:56
Thanks Andrew, I will give that a try as I like the grain mix but was not sure how well it would cook. Do you put the 4 rolls in a round cake tin or something else? Cheers Trish
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Follow Up By: Andrew & Jen - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 20:32

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 20:32
Hullo Trish
We usually use the camp oven with a dusting of flour on the bottom, either on the fire or using the Cobb. Sometimes we use a round tin placed on the roasting rack in the Cobb, particularly if using the camp oven for something else.
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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 12:19

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 12:19
Hi
I have a Bedourie camp oven that I use in the Cobb but have trouble when the heatbeads on top go out, Do you leave the Cobb lid on?
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Reply By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:49

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 19:49
Hi Trish,

We used to own a Cobb (until we bought a van with oven) and I cooked bread quite successfully with it, using bread mix. Just follow the instructions on the pack for hand made bread, as fluid quantities have to be adjusted, also extra yeast is necessary. I make only wholemeal breads and add extra seeds and grains as we enjoy the denser, more filling types.

The important part really (apart from getting the kneading sorted) is to allow ample time for the dough to prove. It just can't be hurried.
I found that a round cake tin fitted best into Cobb and I used to put it on a trivet. Took around the same time as the ordinary oven if I remember correctly.

When pushed for time, I make a scone dough up and it makes fantastic damper type bread. Very quick, easy and delicious.
Have just started using scone dough as a base for 'pizza' when travelling, topped with tomato paste and pesto, then chopped salami, olives, anchovies or anything available and grated cheese.

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Follow Up By: Member - Trish&Craig(WA) - Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 20:00

Monday, Mar 07, 2011 at 20:00
Thanks Heather, you just answered my previous Q to Andrew re type of tin to use. What a great idea about the scone dough - we are having a 'Damper Cooking competition' on the trip so will have to give that a go! And for a pizza base! Do you have a special recipe for the scone dough? I use the lemonade scone recipe when camping as it's so easy. Will this work? Thanks, Trish.
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 07:33

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 07:33
Hi Trish,

I would think your scone recipe would work as well as mine does...give it a go. Mine is vague, varies from time to time depending on numbers I am baking for and is just the basic flour, butter, milk one.

It also works just as well in the camp oven (hot coals on top).

Our campfire meals have made many new and old friends very happy n cold winters evenings.

Have a great time...theres nothing better than camping in remote places in the outback is there??

Regards,

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