3" mandrell exhaust
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Member - Noel C (NSW)
Hi,
I,m considering upgradeing my exhaust.
I have a TD 2004 (IFS) Cruiser and would like comments on weather or not the mandrell system is worth it. Also mild or stainless steel?
Thx
Reply By: Snoopyone - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 09:57
Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 09:57
Go for it
Makes a noticeable difference and as the guy who fitted
mine said when I asked about S/S He said you have too much money.
S/S was $1800+ mild was $1000 fitted
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Reply By: Member - Tony (ACT) - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:30
Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:30
Most if not all "Turbo" mild steel exhaust tube on a diesel will last for many years, A muffler will develop leaks before the pipe. So no benefit going stainless.
The 3' mandrell bent exhaust system will allow the turbo to spin up a lot quicker as it get the spent exhaust gasses away and free up the turbo. By and large gets heat away from the turo as
well.
A great addon to complement the turbo system.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:57
Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:57
The stainless steel system will resonate more than the mild steel, I would be using mild steel and then considering High Performance coating. If you intend on keeping the vehicle it's worth doing imo.
High Performance Coatings
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 12:33
Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 12:33
I have a friend who fitted a 3"
Beaudesert exhaust and dump pipe to his 2004 TD Landcruiser (identical to yours). It was a very nice piece of gear, but on its own there was not much difference in performance or economy.
I think if you were to add a chip as
well, there may be more benefit.
This contrasts to my 1HD-FTE 79series, where a 3"
Beaudesert exhaust made a huge difference - mainly because my cat converter was blocked with soot and the
Beaudesert replacement skips the cat converter.
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Reply By: Member - Mark G Gulmarrad - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 14:27
Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 14:27
Noel C
i fitted a Hurrricane brand exhaust to my 3 ltr diesel and the difference was amazing.
i thoroughly recommend a 3 inch to your vehicle as
well.
cheers.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 19:48
Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 19:48
Hi Noel,
A few weeks back I was talking to Graham H (QLD) and I am sure he said that the 3" system he had put on his TD 100 series Landcruiser was of greater benefit that the chip he had put on.
I may have got that wrong but I am fairly confident that's what he said.
He recommended I do likewise on
mine and I am thinking seriously about it.
There is a lot written about 3" exhausts and all good.
Cheers, Bruce.
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Reply By: Member - Michael and Chris (QL - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 20:26
Tuesday, Mar 08, 2011 at 20:26
Beaudesert exhaust make there products from aluminised steel as standard. You will have no trouble with it rusting and in my opinion it has been the best money I spent on performance. Make sure that you get the dump pipe done at the same time as it is pointless if you don't.
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Follow Up By: gazza414 - Wednesday, Mar 09, 2011 at 11:40
Wednesday, Mar 09, 2011 at 11:40
I suppose you need to be careful about "just" reading into 3" exhaust systems rather than looking at the entire picture with respect to overall flow resistance.
WRT turbo's , its all about the differential pressure across the turbine P1/P2 and its ability to extract heat
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Follow Up By: Snoopyone - Wednesday, Mar 09, 2011 at 12:51
Wednesday, Mar 09, 2011 at 12:51
The 3 1/2 " dump pipe comes with a
Beaudesert system for the 100ser.
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Reply By: Robert S - Wednesday, Mar 09, 2011 at 22:15
Wednesday, Mar 09, 2011 at 22:15
I have a 2005 td Auto Landcruiser fitted with a Tipan 3" mandrel bent exhaust as
well as a DT chip. I am very happy with the performance and fuel economy. The main difference I notice is when I am towing our Aussie Swag camper trailer. Fuel economy has improved ( approx 2 litres/100kls ) and overtaking is a breeze. I will never get my money back but the ease of driving I think it was money
well spent.
Robert
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:44
Thursday, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:44
I fitted one a few years ago.
FWIW here's a comparison of fuel consumption.
2005 TD100
Blue: Standard
Pink: 285X75X16 Muds fitted
Red: 3" steel mandrel bent exhaust fitted.
Green: D'tronic Chip fitted.
Orange: Towing light hard top camper with all the above.
Outliers are sand driving.
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Follow Up By: Richard W (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:48
Thursday, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:48
BTW exhaust improved mid range performance and chip improved bottom end performance.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:15
Thursday, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:15
Gday Richard,
Nice graphs!
The upward trend with standard exhaust (blue line) is typical of this motor. I believe its due largely to the cat converter blocking up with soot. Thats why some people (like you and me) got a good improvement when you fit the 3" exhaust, while other people (typically newer vehicles) have got little or no improvement. So if you fit the 3" exhaust to a newer vehicle where the cat is not blocked, there is little benefit.
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