Wheel spacers for landcruisers

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Hi i have a LC ute 2009 model and im looking to put a set of wheel spacers on the rear axel to bring the wheels in line with the front ARB have recommended snake racing spacers they have fitted them and had no problems reported back has anyone tried them i have read some older posts and i would like to hear anyone's new opinion
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Reply By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:13

Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:13
Have you read > this thread ?

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Reply By: Snoopyone - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:26

Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:26
The simple answer is whatever benefit they may give is outweighed by the fact that they are illegal to use on the road.

Far better to get wheels correctly rated with a wider offset.

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Follow Up By: adventurer - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:07

Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:07
if you have split rims, the rims off a 100# have a bigger offset and changes the 3 inch wheel track difference to 1.5 inches and you have the advantage of havingh a 6 inch split rim instead of 5.5 inch. To have 6 inch rims all round i moved the front rims in on the wheel centre to look like the 5.5 inch rims so the extra width went to the inside.
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Follow Up By: splits - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:16

Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:16
What difference will a wider off set make? A wheel spacer is just an extension of the wheel centre. It makes no difference if you use a spacer or move the wheel centre, you are still attaching the wheel to the car in exactly the same place and placing all the extra stress on the same studs and bearings.

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Follow Up By: Snoopyone - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:38

Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:38
Possibly none but the fact is they are illegal Different offset wheels are not.

Also you are placing the wheels further out on the studs putting more strain on them.
So you are not attaching the wheels in EXACTLY the same place you are moving the face of the wheel out on the stud.

Have a look at the pics in the other thread Thats what happens using them.

Enough said.

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Follow Up By: splits - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 21:14

Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 21:14
I am not suggesting anyone uses spacers. They are definitely illegal. So is moving a wheel too far out. In NSW, and maybe all other states, the maximum permissible increase in track width is only 25 mm so if you change the offset any more than 12.5 mm each side, it is just as illegal as using spacers.

One of the best examples I can remember seeing of the problems associated with changing wheel off sets occurred when hot rodders started using 9 inch Ford diffs back in the 1960s. They usually used them in cars half the weight of the big Galaxies etc that they were designed for. When fitted with wide deeply dished wheels, they did not break the studs, they just snapped the flanges right off the ends of the axles.

That is the real problem you face when you start increasing track widths by wheel positioning. You will reduce the life of the bearings and you will place more stress on the wheel studs. If a bearing fails you usually get plenty of audible warnings so failures probably fall into the "inconvenient" category. Studs don't give any warning, they just let go. They are just time bombs and the longer you drive on them, the shorter the fuse becomes.
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 21:37

Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 21:37
I have the LC79 ute............3 years on and the offset of the wheels has never caused me a problem.......leave well enough alone......

sometimes it is a mind over matter thing...if you were not aware of the difference you most likely would be none the wiser and not considering to fiddle with what Mr Toyota has decided is not an issue
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Reply By: Skippype - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 22:27

Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 22:27
Simon
I have the same V8 ute as yours. Mine is 3 years old and has done 88,000km with them. I have had a set of Snake Racing spacers on the rear since day one and have never had a problem. The ute spends 90% of its time up in Far West Qld in the Cooper Basin. As others have stated they are illegal but I would way prefer to run like that than be flicked from side to side on some of these tracks. When I first got the ute before putting them on it was scary sometimes in thick mud or dry clay tracks with wheel ruts.
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Reply By: Mike L - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 23:38

Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 23:38
G'Day Simon,
What sort of wheels have you got on the Toyo? If the "spacers" are machined so they locate on the spigot on the axle, and the other side locates in the wheel centre you can then bolt them to the wheel and they become "adapters". Longer studs will be required. I have machined up this sort of item for a Clubman car we had registered in SA recently which came from interstate with spacers fitted to the rear hubs..
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Reply By: gbc - Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 07:00

Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 07:00
I raced a 430 h.p. GQ patrol in the extreme winch challenge series for 4 years. It had 2" snake spacers for three of those years. The only issue we had was mud filling the spacer and unbalancing the wheel every now and then. I'd treat the inner threads and bolts - we used neverseize, which I know is not standard procedure, but it works a treat.
Yes they are illegal, but so should selling a 4wd with differeing wheel tracks. Laziness by Toyota.
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Reply By: Member - simon d (NSW) - Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 08:55

Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 08:55
Thanks everyone for the varied opinions i have found when in thick mud bouncing from track to track is not very pleasurable so im going to give the snake racing spacers ago i will let you know the outcome
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