Bungle Bungles Caravan Park
Submitted: Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:14
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Member Ray M (QLD)
The new van
park at The Bungle Bungles has posted their prices on their web site, my first thoughts were that it is a bit expensive considering no concrete slabs or grass and transportable amenities plus limited power supply due to them running from generator.
Still a must see place to visit and for most, a once in a lifetime experience, so probably worth the expense and still cheaper than
El Questro.
Am I being too picky and what do others think?
Cheers Ray [url=www.bunglebunglecaravanpark.com.au]
Reply By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:53
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:53
Yeah, pretty exxy Ray, but what do you get over the National
Park campsites at Walardi and
Kurrajong at $9/night/person with basic facilities?
After all, you cannot take caravans in so what real need is there for electric power?
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:01
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:01
Hi Allan
This new
park will fill a market for people who want to return to their caravans each night for their creature comforts. I think their fees for leaving caravans for those who still wish to enjoy
camping in the National
Park are steep, and people may still choose to leave them at
Spring Creek Rest Area as travellers have been doing for many years.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Member Ray M (QLD) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:10
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:10
Hi Allan
You can take a van into this one as it is only 750 metres from highway entrance, but to leave it for a day costs $20 which is a bit steep.
Just my opinion, maybe I'm a tight you know what
Cheers Ray
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:29
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:29
Ah yes Motherhen and Ray, I simply presumed that with the title "Bungle Bungle Caravan Park" it was located in or close to the NP. I now realise that it is on Mabel Downs Station and just 750m from the highway. Quite a trek in and out to Purnululu if you want to stay for more than one day. Even more reason to be unattractive value for someone interested in Purnululu NP.
Nowhere can I find on their website any expression of distance or time to get from their caravan
park to the actual Bungle Bungles so someone unfamiliar with the area could form the opinion that the CP is close to the BB's. Not so, its 100km!
Could I be forgiven for suspecting that they would prefer that is not
well publicised?
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:44
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:44
It is 50 kms from Highway to
Park (
Ranger Station) - allow up to three hours as track conditions vary, it is narrow with limited visibility in
places and requires caution to avoid accidents. There is then further travelling to the walks and the
camp ground at each end of the
park.
Camping at the two
camp grounds was lovely. We were also able to do the walks starting out early to avoid the heat, relax in the
camp during the heat of the middle of the day, and do further walks late afternoon. Being on site has a lot of benefits, but some people do miss out on Purnululu because they can't (or won't) go
camping.
Mh
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:52
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:52
Yes Motherhen, it's 100km round trip and 6 hours which is what you would be looking at if you stayed in the BB CP.
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Follow Up By: Member Ray M (QLD) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:57
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:57
Hi Mh
When we were there we only planned on
camping 2 days, but ended up staying 3 and could have stayed longer. What a great place.
We had a huge
camp area to ourselves and lots of firewood supplied.
The road in was in excellent condition even with from memory about 32
creek crossings, and we towed a
Cape York Trailer, and took less than 2 hours, but I could see with lots of traffic that travel time would vary considerably.
Cheers Ray
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:15
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:15
Hi Ray
It took us about 2 hours not towing and the road conditions were good, but we were very wary and alert for the "idiots" speeding through blind areas which meant taking to the bush. We were aware of one camper which lost its axle after taking to the bush to avoid a collision a couple of weeks earlier. While we were there, someone overturned their Ultimate camper trailer on the track, and did quite a bit of damage according to the people we camped next to who were second on the scene.
Mh
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Reply By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:08
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:08
Anything is better than
El questro.
$66 for two of us to
camp on an unpowered partly grassed site. And there are better canyons etc elsewhere.
Total rip off.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:38
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:38
That's strange Phil. Cost us $18/night/person for a
campsite at
El Questro.
And that was "In Season".
And although
El Questro is more expensive than a National
Park campground it does offer a number of facilities. Damn good restaurant, free campfire entertainment and we took a great river/4WD excursion which included champagne and cheese at sunset on a hilltop. Yeah it cost some but we thought it was worth it......... just love contrasts....... the bush, isolation, and indulgence.
Horses for courses I guess, but people do love to knock
El Questro.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 12:25
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 12:25
I can post a copy of the receipt if you wish.
When we went there is was $1.50 each for the
Park Permit/Wilderness Pass or whatever they called it plus another $16.50 each for the
camping fee. Thats a total of $66. This year its something like $72.
And to boot they lost the plastic dust seal that was tied to the our gas bottle. And you try and find a replacement. So the hose receptical gets full of dust all the time now. They said it was not there. Strange when it was brand new. You could see where it had been just ripped off.
We only stayed there for one night and the shower was cold. It was noisy and packed to the rafters. I certainly would not say that it was isolated. Next night at Home Valley was better by a mile. I think we enjoy different
camping. Champagne! Hey its the bush not Fifth Avenue. Each to his own. Free campfire entertainment is everywhere so I wouldn't call that a plus. Most of the
places up there like Home Valley, and
Drysdale River have restaurants as
well. And they are heaps cheaper. To us it was just a big noisy and crowded caravan and touristy place.
Phil
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Follow Up By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:03
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:03
vkidx,
Maybe I'm missing something 2 permits at $1.50=$3.00
camping at$16.50 (2) =$33.00
total =$36.00
Where is the $66.00?
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:17
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:17
Two
Park Permits at $18 = $36 for a week. Two
Camping Permits at $18 = $36 a night. Add them together and its $72.
Thats the price right now. I just rang them to find out.
Ours was only $66 in 2007/8 or when ever we went there.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:32
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:32
El Questro. When I was there, it was over-crowded, over-rated and over-priced. In my trip around Australia it was the worst place we stayed. Never again.
Jack
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Follow Up By: Member - John B2 (VIC) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 16:29
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 16:29
Gee Phil,
Are you having a bad day The Rambler was only "quoting your post" $1.50 for a permit. I think he was just helping you with the additions? :-)
Cheers,
John
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 16:49
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 16:49
Hi John
I totally misinterpreted what he typed. I did not realise that I had made an error. But then I am sure that if he had done a few calculations then he would know the answer already.
Thanks
Phil
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Reply By: Motherhen - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 13:57
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 13:57
That does look expensive, but in the
Kimberley where costs are higher, so are the prices charged. They have a prime site for which there should be plenty of customers, and they will be meeting a market.
Prices may have risen since 2008, but by comparison at the more remote
Drysdale River Station, we paid $28 for two unpowered (family rate $30); powered sites were $6 extra (only a few available). Amenities were very good and this
park scored 9/10 on my rating system. At their unserviced Miners
Pool, charge was $9 per person and children no charge. There was a rubbish tip for rubbish disposal - whereas the new Bungle Bungle CP has none. Drysdale did not charge for people leaving their caravan while continuing on to
Mitchell Falls and
Kalumburu whereas the new Bungle Bungle CP will charge $20 per day without power and full site fee of $45 with power for caravans left there. Drysdale also have a popular bar and restaurant area, and a mechanical workshop capable of fixing a huge variety of breakages.
Under the 2008 pricing structure at
El Questro (then owned by Voyages) we paid $30 per night for two; same whether in the crowded village
camp ground or in the unserviced individual
riverside camps - we chose the latter. Add to that the "permit" charge and Voyages credit card surcharge, it was not cheap, but we decided that they had
places well worth seeing, and were pleased that we went.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:12
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 14:12
OUCH - just read "African Safari Tents will be up and running towards the end of May. Price: $295 per person per night". That is virtually $600 per night for two (including dinner and breakfast). Must be catering for the rich Japanese - like the ones who pay squillions to stay at the
Homestead overlooking the river at ELQ.
Mh
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:25
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:25
Motherhen
We also splurged during our 2009 trip to the
Kimberley etc. We stayed at the Bungles for two nights. The first night in our comfortable tent. The next night in a Safari Tent at$500 for the night. Froze all night. Not a blamket to be found. But it did have a good shower. Room enough for two.
Then we spent $12000 on this
Bragging??? You betchya. Never again could we afford to even look at the cruise or a Safari Tent or even the extended helicopter ride. Let alone afford it. Worth every penny. Including the Bungles and Elquestro to have been there and to have seen the Kimberly from three sides.
What memories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Phil
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:57
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:57
Wow that must have been an amazing cruise Phil. There is so much of the
Kimberley including the coastline and islands that are inaccessible to most of us. The locals tell us to come back in the wet season to see it at its best.
Looking back on our trips so far, the
Kimberley has to be the best.
2008 trips featuring the Kimberley
Mh
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Reply By: WBS - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:10
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:10
Those costs are very steep. Quite frankly I'd rather
park the van on a powered site at Warmun (if the
water has subsided) and commute to the Bungle Bungles from there. Or,
park the van in the holding compound at Warmun (for $10 per night ) and commute to the Bungle Bungles and
camp for a few days. There is also an area where i saw a few motorhomes and caravans parked just opposite the track leading off the highway into the Bungle Bungles.
WBS
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter B2 (QLD) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:14
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:14
WBS - we cross-posted. I asked the question about Warmun and you must have read my mind!
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:49
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:49
We left our caravan at
Kununurra and it was a very pleasant and easy drive on the highway, with the hills looking quite different in the evening light on our return to in the early morning light on the way there.
Previous owners of our van left it at the
Spring Creek Rest Area as many people do.
There is also the option of leaving it at
Halls Creek CP, although it is not as close as Warmun, but it depends on direction of travel. The cost of extra kilometres and storage may make the $20 per day to leave it at the new CP viable.
Mh
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Reply By: Member - Peter B2 (QLD) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:13
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 15:13
That is pretty expensive. However we intend to leave the van and take the tent into the Bungles for 3-4 nights.
Was thinking to stay one night in the caravan
park unpowered ($35), 4 nights storage unpowered ($80), 4 nights NP fees @ $10 each ($80). Total $195 or if you average it out, $39 per night.
For us, it's on our "must see" list of things and a couple of extra nights of free or low-cost
camping will bring the accommodation budget back on track.
Didn't they have van storage at Warmun - has anyone heard how they are going after the floods?
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 16:00
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 16:00
Purnululu is certainly a "must-see" Peter, and considering the cost of getting to the
Kimberley, it is worth seeing all the great
places, including Purnululu and ELQ.
Mh
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Follow Up By: WBS - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:03
Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:03
Just a couple of points about Warmun.
My understanding of recent floods is that it didn't effect the roadhouse but may have impacted on the compound.
Book ahead if you want a powered site, contrary to what I was told at the Tourist Centre in
Kununurra.
I parked the van in the compound for 2 nights while I camped out at the BUngle Bungles, and then stayed in an unpowered site on the third.
I think allowing 3-4 nights is plenty.
WBS
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Reply By: Member - Terry D (Brisbane QLD - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 18:52
Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 18:52
Hi
In 08 we left our van at Warman (Turkey
Creek) $10/night, and tented at Bungle Bungle - an amazing place and must see again! I'm getting rid of the big van and getting a single axle off road van in which we can go into
places like the Bungle Bungle NP.
On the off topics matters re EL Q - yes its expensive, but we had a wonderful time there and would recommend it to anyone visiting the Kimberleys
Regards
TD
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Follow Up By: WBS - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:06
Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:06
My understanding is that caravans are not permitted into the Bungle Bungles. Camper trailers and tents only.
WBS
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 13:51
Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 13:51
Hi WBS
Last year DEC softened their approach which previously allowed "camper trailers" but not "caravans", when some of the former where larger than some of the latter. The delineation between what is actually a camper trailer and what is a caravan is subjective with the different models on the market these days. They now allow small single axle caravans in.
Mh
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 13:58
Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 13:58
That makes it even more desirable to travel the track in at 4am!
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Reply By: hunty01 - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 00:44
Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 00:44
Both are such beautiful
places. There was no way i was going to go all the way up there and not miss them both. We took out on road camper into the BB. We did let air out and had a nice and steady drive in.
To me its what you want to see rather than what it may cost, thats why we had budgeted for them. El Q was one of our most loved
places on our trip El Q
gorge is beautiful especially if you can get past the big boulder.
John
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Follow Up By: Graham & Ann - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:13
Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:13
What a great initiative, congratulations to Bungle Bungle Station, ok like
El Questro a little exxxy, but not much more than Adels Grove and they get booked out. It certainly provides a much needed option for those caravanning the
Kimberley area.
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Follow Up By: Graham & Ann - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:38
Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:38
Forgot to mention when we stayed at
El Questro in 2005 booked in for 3 nights, stayed 5, had a fabulous time. Place is a must see/do if your going to
Kimberley area, as is Adels Grove in Qld if your heading to
Lawn Hill. And dare I say it, in time to come the Bungle Bungle Station CVP with its tavern & tucker will no doubt be a must do for many of those visiting the area.
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